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by erpman
Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:48 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

Yes, I agree to most of this. My problem with what you´re saying is that if presence only happens spontaneously, out of the blue, like in children or animals, then why did Eckhart write a book about it? Wouldn´t it have been better if he had done nothing at all, or maybe distributed a note saying "j...
by erpman
Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:15 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

No. Everything is the important thing. What you describe is precisely living in the future. You think you are talking about the present; but your choice of words clearly shows you are living in the future. Pardon my french, but geez... Please don´t psychologize me based on your interpretation of so...
by erpman
Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:46 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

So, what does Eckhart mean exactly when he says this? (You might have already explained it- not sure) I can only offer my take on what he says, which is that it´s better to get into the habit of being present when you are in a life situation that doesn´t make you seek out presence as a cure for you...
by erpman
Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:29 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

But your take on what that lady said and what ET says is still treating things/situations as a means to an end... Using meditation to solve a crisis, you don't need to meditate you only need to 'solve' - come to terms with and choose your response consciously Using when life is going relatively smo...
by erpman
Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:20 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

Can you guys see that these three examples are all treating things/situations as a means to an end? The point I was trying to make was precisely that treating meditation/presence as a means to an end is a bad idea, so I don´t immediately see how my quote implies this. Could you elaborate? I must sa...
by erpman
Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:27 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

I was listening to a podcast on zen meditation yesterday, and the speaker said something interesting. She said that it´s a very bad idea to start a meditation practice when you are in a life crisis, as a means to solve the crisis. That will not work, and will confuse the meditation as well. I think ...
by erpman
Thu May 31, 2012 6:57 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

Eckhart says in one place that one of the mind's functions is to "cover up" your restlessness and uneasiness, and that's one of the reasons why it does so much thinking all the time. So that the focus of your attention gets absorbed on thoughts, and not in the unpleasant feelings of restlessness. C...
by erpman
Wed May 30, 2012 7:51 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

Like an empty hollow concept of a few "letters", compared to the ever-changing indescribable living thing you saw in that instant (hope you understand what I'm trying to say here)... It´s exactly what I´m getting at :) But why do the thoughts arise in the first place, and so quickly, even when you'...
by erpman
Tue May 29, 2012 1:18 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Does it ever feel forced to you?
Replies: 57
Views: 6699

Re: Does it ever feel forced to you?

And to both of you maybe one more suggestion: When you're trying to achieve and maintain presence, and it feels like "work", maybe it's because you're trying to look at the mind, but still "from" the mind... Does it make sense? For example yesterday I looked through a window and saw the grass in th...