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by carlojuan77
Sat May 30, 2015 8:28 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

Kindly answer these questions: If unconsciousness isn't necessarily bad per se, then does that make all bad deeds NOT bad? They are just unconscious? If death is not a big deal, then does that make killing or murder not a big deal? If we do unconscious deeds, what are the consequences of those actio...
by carlojuan77
Sat May 30, 2015 8:10 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

Ok. What say you with this video? This is EXACTLY one of my concerns. Thoughts?

Eckhart Tolle and Marianne Williamson on the dichotomy of good and bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MfEt40m2G0
by carlojuan77
Sat May 30, 2015 3:13 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

I noticed this in your posts Carlo. I found it interesting. You say this below I am a Christian But, then you also say this: Yes. It is quite liberating to finally realize Being and this God-essence or Presence within all of us Point being that while all religions ultimately point to the truth of P...
by carlojuan77
Fri May 29, 2015 1:49 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

[quote="Fore"] Initially when we first begin walking the path there is a level of abstinence(training rules) but as one progresses they come to see moral behaviour as a natural process. No force required, one sees the misery created by immoral behaviour and one naturally comes out of these actions. ...
by carlojuan77
Fri May 29, 2015 12:42 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

It is clear that you do not comprehend what I am discussing here with regard to self creation/birth, I am willing to patiently reiterate this process over and over again as it is a truth. I'm not arguing the point that you cannot have birth without desire, I'm not suggesting this is a problem eithe...
by carlojuan77
Fri May 29, 2015 11:36 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

The only thing that is absolutely true, is that there is in us, an active awareness of being. We are in fact, none of the things we experience, we are none of the things manifest in this world, we are in fact, the very essence from with which everything is manifest, everything becomes into being. T...
by carlojuan77
Fri May 29, 2015 7:46 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

Carlo, I never said there was anything 'wrong' with abstinence, just like I don't see anything 'wrong' with sex. I can freely embrace both. The poster above (Fore) was making a statement that sexual desire is an 'impurity' which is just a limited opinion, meaning that sexual desire is something tha...
by carlojuan77
Fri May 29, 2015 7:40 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

I guess I am just finding it hard to accept that there may be no absolute moral code. I am a Christian but I don't want to sheepishly follow laws out of fear, punishment, etc. I just want to arrive at a place where I want to because I do not because I have to. For example, I consider that cursing pe...
by carlojuan77
Fri May 29, 2015 6:47 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

Okay, you guys answer these... What made the enlightened beings of our millenia abstain and live a life of asceticism? Why did Gandhi, who had a wife, chose not to have sex with her in the midst of his struggle with his country's independence? What made the creators of the laws of Leviticus and in t...
by carlojuan77
Thu May 28, 2015 2:58 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

Fore wrote: There are no guards or locked doors, you just have to look.
I admit I am having a hard time looking into the gravity of my actions. Have I become numb? Why is sexual desire considered to be a deep impurity?
by carlojuan77
Tue May 26, 2015 12:44 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

If you are being presence, this is perfection, no action is taken that causes harm to another. You are speaking of the agitated mind, and the agitated mind is not seeing clearly. I can no longer see myself doing dreadful extreme actions against other people. But there are still matters that I have ...
by carlojuan77
Tue May 26, 2015 6:42 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

...One can then observe that when one begins to act in a way that is not harmonious they are immediately punished, they create misery for themselves. When one begins to experience this first hand, they naturally stop taking actions that lead to misery. They begin to act in a way that is in harmony ...
by carlojuan77
Tue May 26, 2015 6:37 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

You're kinda right, carlojaun, in that there is an unmooring from ones moral structure when we lose fear. We are somewhat destabilized from our usual mode of operating based on the fear of recrimination, guilt and shame. When these are gone, or reduced, we are looser in our actions and thoughts. Ex...
by carlojuan77
Fri May 15, 2015 8:21 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Re: Where is morality?

By taking such actions as killing, stealing, telling lies, sexual misconduct and indulging in intoxicants, we are agitating the mind, this mind cannot see clearly, this mind cannot come out of these miseries, this mind is not peaceful and happy. The first step in any spiritual practice is to calm t...
by carlojuan77
Wed May 13, 2015 9:44 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Where is morality?
Replies: 63
Views: 18032

Where is morality?

Is there an absolute moral code that everyone must adhere to? Having developed some degree of consciousness in me, I have noticed how religions and Churches have egoic structures still going on within each one of them: "My God is better than your god", or the many judgments and labeling the Bible fo...