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by lucy
Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

James wrote: If there is any ultimate reality, it is Not Knowing, or Nothingness, the mysterious paradox of nothing as everything
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by lucy
Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

What has been expressed in this thread that feels less than true to my experience, is an opinion or conclusion that there is nothing to be done about identification with thought. Is this an accurate interpretation? Would it have been more helpful for Tolle to level with his audience and have writte...
by lucy
Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

Hi Mistral, I do get what you are saying, but what I am trying to point to and others on this form have also pointed to is that: Realization did not come about because of anything I did. If anything, the practice of meditation kept me chained to the idea of "me". For years, I tried hard not to accum...
by lucy
Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

mistral wrote: Life is the River and It is Being It very well, but learning how to Flow with This River does take practice
You are life. What is it that needs to learn to flow with the river?
by lucy
Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

I hear what you are saying James, and it makes sense to the mind. I would have to argue though that the training wheels re-enforce the very thing that obscures the truth from being realized. "Being" is not a skill, to treat it as such only re-enforces that it is. We are not born with the skill of ri...
by lucy
Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: You are Pure Consciousness
Replies: 24
Views: 1509

Re: You are Pure Consciousness

All I know is that no matter how hard it tries, the mind cannot figure this out. It is like giving a rubic cube to a monkey. This sounds like a cop-out but only to the mind whose agenda is to keep itself going.
by lucy
Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:30 am
Forum: Questions
Topic: No problem now??
Replies: 22
Views: 1751

Re: No problem now??

okay I will ask for forgiveness at the outset for evoking this tired analogy. Before awakening: chop wood, carry water. After awakening: chop wood, carry water. The only difference is that after awakening when wood is being chopped or water being carried, you are not rushing through it mentally in o...
by lucy
Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: You are Pure Consciousness
Replies: 24
Views: 1509

Re: You are Pure Consciousness

Hi Michael, Thank you for your efforts to clarify this age old question. I am a huge fan of Never not Here and have watched almost every video taped interview they have, technical problems and all :D . I did catch Peter's interview. It is not that I am not open to this or that the mind finds this di...
by lucy
Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

Somehow you have to be catapulted outside of it to see it for what it really is. But you don't have a say in that... because if you did, then you would have caused it. Nice. It's like the sun never actually sets. You can see this from outer space, but when on Earth, it feels like it does. Once it h...
by lucy
Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

Actually, you have no choice in any of it. Any attempt made at staying open to see the falsity of anything is too much. You are not discerning anything or discarding anything. "You" are false and any movement from there is also false. I'm sorry to have implied otherwise... :) Yes, words falsify the...
by lucy
Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: You are Pure Consciousness
Replies: 24
Views: 1509

Re: You are Pure Consciousness

This isn't what she means (I don't think). It's not that one form is another, as you correctly surmise. It's that there is no separation between consciousness and form. Yes, forms change while your formless true nature doesn't (how could it, being without form there is nothing to change), but there...
by lucy
Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 11041

Re: Relating with Others

Yes, once it has been seen that you are nothing through neti, neti, than it can also be seen that you are everything.
by lucy
Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:56 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: You are Pure Consciousness
Replies: 24
Views: 1509

Re: You are Pure Consciousness

Consciousness is the whole kitten kaboodle. There is nothing outside of it. Look around do you see any real boundaries? There is diversity but it is not separation. Consciousness is like water, it (You) can exsis in different states, but it is all the same substance. In actuality there is no subject...
by lucy
Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:51 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Can we agree that "I" and "me" DO exist?
Replies: 6
Views: 575

Re: Can we agree that "I" and "me" DO exist?

I don't think we are questioning whether or not we exsist, but rather what is it that is exsisting. The little me or pure Consciousness.
by lucy
Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: You are Pure Consciousness
Replies: 24
Views: 1509

Re: You are Pure Consciousness

Yes consciousness is all there is, that also includes the manifested, so in a sense you are also that which is moving, not just Awareness. The reason I point this out is because it is very easy to see the manifested world as something separate from you when it is heard that you are Pure Awareness. F...