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by sevenworlds
Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:02 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

All I can say is this certainty has nothing to do with mind. I don't know anything for sure, and I don't have a feeling like "yes, this it". It is a certainty that is undeniable and yet unexplainable. It's just there, a living thing that cannot be captured. If you knew me before, I was a very skepti...
by sevenworlds
Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:01 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

James, I think you are mistaken what I mean by authoritative. I don't necessarily mean forceful in action or words. The authority I'm talking about can be there when gentle words are being spoken or laughter. I see plenty of what we call flaws in UG's character as a person. It doesn't change what is...
by sevenworlds
Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:03 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

7w – Guru A seems more enlightened than Guru B. Maybe guru A’s eyes are deeper than Guru B’s. Maybe his voice is clearer. What is the real litmus test? There is not one, of course, because self-realization is something which happens in isolation, in the consciousness of one person. And there is no ...
by sevenworlds
Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:14 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

I shouldn't keep saying this is my last post. I disagree James about the moments of doubt and temptation. At one time, when Eckhart was the only one I was aware of, I felt it was like that, but now I don't feel that way. If you read accounts and statements of people like UG and Nisargadatta Maharaj ...
by sevenworlds
Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:41 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

Ok, maybe I should explain a few things before I go - whether or not it makes any difference I don't know. From the moment I first heard Tolle 2 years ago I knew he was speaking the truth and it kickstarted a process that has been ongoing. Mentally, physically and emotionally. My mother died suddenl...
by sevenworlds
Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:30 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

Sorry, to reply to your second post James, it has been the other way round for me. For the first year of when all this happened to me and I was still finding my bearings, I didn't see the effort in Eckhart. I assumed that was the form it took. It wasn't until I started coming across other teachers, ...
by sevenworlds
Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:12 am
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

WW, what do you mean by "I am"? Is that synonymous with the terms God, Being, Consciousness, Self, etc... for you? And do you know what that points to directly and with complete certainty or is it knowledge you have acquired that makes you say "it exists beyond the words that define it"? James, what...
by sevenworlds
Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:01 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

I'm not worried about it. It's just that I seem to have reached a point where I feel I am in the state all the teachers speak of. Yet there is still this sense of 'I' that knows it is in that state. It's a very odd feeling. All through this topic there is a deep sense of peace, a space of peace cons...
by sevenworlds
Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:18 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

:lol: Funnily enough, no. That's what I'm saying, I don't know why I'm doing this. I've no interest in being critical of Tolle. I'm curious to know why he often states he still has to be vigilant of his ego returning when the others don't seem to have that concern. Something about that doesn't sit r...
by sevenworlds
Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:07 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

No, that's not what I'm saying. I've stated that I can see the same thing behind the words of many teachers. Whether I listen to UG, Mooji or Papaji, I feel like I'm listening to myself. Pure and simple. It has nothing to do with personalising a teacher. Having said that, if you look at those teache...
by sevenworlds
Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:26 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

That is how it looks from the outside. We see someone shout their name and they look as if they respond like anyone else but it's all one movement in that state. UG doesn't even know why he is responding. We are functioning no differently, except we delude ourselves we are involved in the process. T...
by sevenworlds
Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:15 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

Yes, the words themselves can never capture and contain the pure truth, no matter from which teacher. I did listen to and read Eckhart frequently for about a year and was drawn to do so by more than the words. He was the first spiritual teacher I came across - accidently - and from the first moment ...
by sevenworlds
Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:02 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Re: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

No, that's not what I'm talking about. How can there be true freedom with an 'I' still there? That means there is a still a doer. Eckhart may have helped in recognising the "me" you speak of and I would say the link or momentum of thought was broken at that point. From then on, for the last 2 years,...
by sevenworlds
Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:31 pm
Forum: General Eckhart Tolle Discussion
Topic: Is Eckhart FULLY realized?
Replies: 167
Views: 38392

Is Eckhart FULLY realized?

I've been checking out this forum now and again for some time but this is my first post. I learnt of Eckhart exactly 2 years ago, having no prior interest in spirituality. I've now reached a point where I'm questioning the state Eckhart is in. This began about one year ago, where I stumbled upon ano...