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by sevenworlds
Thu May 14, 2009 6:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 20942

Re: Relating with Others

Hi James, The lying in bed is fact, it is actual. The thought "should I be lying in bed?" is an abstraction placed on top of that. It doesn't really have anything to do with what is happening now. You are lying in bed. If you don't like it, get up. Pondering to yourself whether you should is meaning...
by sevenworlds
Thu May 14, 2009 4:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 20942

Re: Relating with Others

Thanks Andy. It's not that UG is my favourite teacher, because he also has to be discarded. My likes/dislikes, or programming, is still different to his. He was the first I'd come across who told it like it was in straight, plain, everyday language and told me I didn't have to change. All I'd heard ...
by sevenworlds
Thu May 14, 2009 2:37 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

Tony, please I'm warning you, you're playing with fire and if you're not careful you're going to get burnt. You are clearly in need of help. If you were stupid enough to fall into all of the external organisations you mention then it's no wonder you became a "U.G. Krishnamurti fan" and no wonder you...
by sevenworlds
Wed May 13, 2009 5:29 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

You can quote Jesus all you like, he was full of crap like the rest of us. Until you get behind those words, they are just hollow phrases you're chucking out. It's like Tony... he claims he keeps following me about on this forum for reasons of his own. He is persistent with me because he knows there...
by sevenworlds
Wed May 13, 2009 3:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

randomguy, I know! It's all such a joke. We pay money for books, CDs, talks, do endless activities and techniques all in the aim of being ourselves. The one thing that nobody else can give to us. The difficulty is in explaining that in order for that learned knowledge to fall into it's proper place,...
by sevenworlds
Wed May 13, 2009 2:37 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: posting and busy minds
Replies: 11
Views: 1364

Re: posting and busy minds

Who's to say what is an adequate pointer? As I keep saying, I don't see a method to this. Tolle is saying that and yet his own pointers may be confusing millions of people, who if they heard it put completely differently would see it. There are many stories of teachers provoking their students into ...
by sevenworlds
Wed May 13, 2009 2:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 20942

Re: Relating with Others

Well said, Onceler. I wonder (an expression of active curiousity), if you have painted your perspective into a corner? Without an honest and active curiousity you will likely never know. The curiosity was once there WW. The searching, the seeking, is the part of the game where curiosity gets its cha...
by sevenworlds
Wed May 13, 2009 1:32 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

Tony, sorry, but if anyone here is suffering brain malfunction it might be you. I saw that Jill Bolte Taylor video a year ago and if you think that is what I'm experiencing carry on. She suffered a stroke, part of her brain shut down. She may have experienced certain parallels with spiritual experie...
by sevenworlds
Wed May 13, 2009 1:14 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

mistral, I have the feeling you are stopping yourself short of going all the way. As I keep saying, I only became familiar with the term "non-dualism" on here. So if you wish to see my statements under that category that's up to you. It's very easy to dismiss what I say in that way and kid yourself ...
by sevenworlds
Tue May 12, 2009 6:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

mistral, what distinguishes the "stone" from everything else around it? You seem to be separating recognition and naming. I have to first have the knowledge that it is a "stone" to even be able to contemplate how many. Otherwise it's all just a mass of energy moving around. You really wouldn't know ...
by sevenworlds
Tue May 12, 2009 5:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 20942

Re: Relating with Others

Seven, this concept of no choosing seems not to hold up under direct observation. It's easy to say things just happen, but in my own experience - and I dare say most everyone - there is a prerequisite urge to action. The choice that is always present is whether or not to act upon that urge. The cho...
by sevenworlds
Tue May 12, 2009 1:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

I don't come into this world knowing a 'tree' is a 'tree' or a 'cat' a 'cat'. Yet once I am told enough times that's what they are, I accept, and today I still call them by those names. Numbers are no different.
by sevenworlds
Tue May 12, 2009 12:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: posting and busy minds
Replies: 11
Views: 1364

Re: posting and busy minds

Often when I read something, the mind is quick to want to respond, it's almost reflexive, and the in my opinon what comes out is usually something that has aready been said, just more rubbish or noise as Jac O'Keeffe says. I see too often with this spiritual thing we can go the other way. There is ...
by sevenworlds
Tue May 12, 2009 12:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Karmic Decision
Replies: 42
Views: 4255

Re: Karmic Decision

I have to be taught and accept the concept of maths, otherwise it is meaningless. I have to accept the number 1 first for all other numbers to have any meaning. Supposing I had never been taught numbers. Someone holds up a stone in front of me. Can I say there is one stone?
by sevenworlds
Tue May 12, 2009 12:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Relating with Others
Replies: 172
Views: 20942

Re: Relating with Others

Charles, I don't think we're bypassing each other. I am genuinely questioning whether there is any choosing going on. What is this entity that is deciding when to play a role and when not to? My feeling is that the language Eckhart uses is causing confusion. He will often speak of using the mind lik...