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by borris83
Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

The enlightenment is neither ordinary nor special.. The words 'ordinary' and 'special' are like two sides of the same coin that ego has in its pocket... This can be very tricky. But when Osho said enlightenment is ordinary, for me, it was a straight finger pointing clearly to the moon of reality. I...
by borris83
Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

I am following carefully this link, at the moment the best in the forum. Please, all of you, participants, don't stop. Even I thought so, Testigo.. :) I really enjoyed the discussion in this thread. For me, I am clear that my mind is not me.. Sometimes mind wants to ramble, to discuss, to agree and...
by borris83
Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:31 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Who was the first person to be truly aware?
Replies: 3
Views: 719

Who was the first person to be truly aware?

Following is from Sadhguru Jagii Vasudev's blog as spoken by Sadhguru: According to the yogic tradition, Shiva is not seen as a god, but as the Adiyogi or first Yogi and Adi Guru or the first Guru. He transmitted the yogic sciences to his seven disciples – the Saptarishis – on the banks of Kantisaro...
by borris83
Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:56 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

We are constrained by language, trying to discribe the indiscribable is difficult. Trying to describe paradoxes is even harder. I like Vedanta, because they are as clear as they can be with the use of language Exactly.. That was the part of my difficulty.. Sticking to the language of one traditiona...
by borris83
Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:31 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

I dont think you understood what I was trying to say... Just read my post again when I talked about ordinary and special...It was just like a joke or a poetry. If you can't understand it, never mind.. We are not creating a scripture here, we are just having a discussion.. I wanted to say that you do...
by borris83
Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:44 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

I am just playing with words.. To me the word ordinary (normal) equals natural. Also, to say it's "ordinary" is a pointer. I don't think it's helpful to play with words too much, as it causes confusion and comes off like your contradicting yourself. I say what I mean and mean what I say... guess I ...
by borris83
Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

I love the following excerpt from Osho, regarding this topic.. It is from his commentary on Vigyan Bhairav Tantra: It is said of Do-zen, another Zen master, that when he achieved enlightenment disciples asked him, "What was the first thing that you wanted to do after it?" Do-zen is reported to have ...
by borris83
Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

I think it's ordinary, because it's you! It's who you are, can't get more ordinary then that. It's ignorance that needs to be removed to apprehend this fact and in that sense people think it's special, because ignorance is hard wired. We are hard wired to believe we are the mind/body/sense complex ...
by borris83
Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

Onceler wrote: I suspect enlightenment, whatever that is, is a lot more ordinary than most people suspect. And so do I :wink: .. The enlightenment is neither ordinary nor special.. The words 'ordinary' and 'special' are like two sides of the same coin that ego has in its pocket... This can be very ...
by borris83
Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

My life has been basically an open book since I started postng here in 2010. Feel free to read any of the 1,688 posts. You"ll run into many unconcious reactionary posts if you look back, it is what it is. I actually can laugh at them now and see the humor in it. I love open books. :) I will go thro...
by borris83
Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:24 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Spirituality Jokes
Replies: 452
Views: 87078

Re: Spirituality Jokes

A Zen student asked his master, "Is it OK to use email?" "Yes," replied the master, "But no attachments." .................... A woman get cheated by her husband. Devastated, she doesn't know how to continue to live her life. She heard that there's a very wise monk who lives up in a mountain, and de...
by borris83
Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:15 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

I honestly don't think the world or humans need enlightenment right now. It's an elite experience/lifestyle. The number of enlightened people is probably close to the ratio of billionaires to everyone else. I believe we need an end to our suffering, thereby soothing personal pain and ending the vir...
by borris83
Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

Borris said- "He might be honest, speaking about his own experience and he might have experienced the initial awakening, but not enlightenment." I just expressed my doubts about him by saying that. It is not just Ted Schmidt, but when I come across anybody who is considered as enlightened or claims...
by borris83
Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

Ha, that strikes me as funny! Anyways, his teacher is James Swartz who has been teaching Vedanta for about 45 years and is also enlightened, but I'm sure you'll say he isnt, because you've decided so. Ok, I'm done going round and round about it. I didnt say he is not, may be he is.. I just said tha...
by borris83
Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: One of the biggest traps
Replies: 116
Views: 9420

Re: One of the biggest traps

There are reports that Nisargadatta cried when his wife and daughter died. Also, ET speaks of sadness and tears (on the level of form) when his parent/s died in a video on youtube. Tears are possible, but an enlightened person doesn't feel the pain of it. It is a beautiful sadness that is felt with...