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by Mouse
Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:17 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

The arising of what you call memory and emotions doesn't cause something personal to exist, it only seems so. The distinction is important. The person is an illusion, whether it arises or not. So while you are focusing on the "seems to exist person" you leave your senses and are only partially cons...
by Mouse
Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:01 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

Karmarider thankyou for the integrity and openness of your responses. Ananda for the sublime clarity and enigma for just responding in truth as you see it. ' When it's said that the separate, volitional person does not exist, this is true, and as difficult as it is to hear, it's extremely important ...
by Mouse
Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:49 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

Enigma you only know you have an endocrine system because of your memory, based on what someone has told you. Psyche refers to the living reality of the subjective experience. It is refered to as in the body because the usual condition is of not being able to feel the sensational reality that appear...
by Mouse
Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

On the other hand, the theme of this thread (for me anyhoo) is a lack of clarity in the use of terms; some declaring the teachings of Barry Long to be particularly clear, while I seem to notice precisely the opposite. The jumbling and redefining of the pronouns and the assigning of existence to obj...
by Mouse
Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

So I imagine your experience of being now is observing the body perform actions while being completely detached every moment from the scene - the existence movie. You do not make decisions. You are completely one with the pulse of the moment allowing the body to do what it does. You are in the effor...
by Mouse
Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

enigma wrote: No personal I exists.
But you possess an ever brightening individual self knowledge, that maintains a detachment, from any lesser energetic reality than what you are. That is 'I'- the individual self knowledge- it is not personal but individual. I hope you can follow that.
by Mouse
Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:52 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

How do you see it as not yours Karmarider and everyone else that states this? Is that because you know you are not the coarse, slowness of the person? Yet even though having seen you are not the person, the person might still be there as in still arise and obviously be identified as 'my' person. I t...
by Mouse
Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:15 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

Nonduality as I understand it reduces identification with the I-thought. But clearly Barry Long is stating that whenever there is a reflection on the memory, emotions, or what is known (which makes up the complete repertoire of personal self reflection), personal 'I' then exists. I don't hear any no...
by Mouse
Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

To say "I only exist in the past" is to imply that the conceptual 'I' does exist in some conceptual past. It doesn't. If there is no "I" there is no perception. Are you not your perception? You are obviously wrong in saying there is no "I". The question is what perception or I is identified with. O...
by Mouse
Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:11 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

Well now let's see, if I self reflect - on my memory(past), my emotions(past), or what I know(past), then self appears. What you are pointing to is prior to this moment. You are pointing to the moment when I come out of the state of nonduality due to this idea that I exist, and I then identify with ...
by Mouse
Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:51 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

Why is it confusing? Everybody experiences their self as " – as a reflection on my memory, my emotions, or what I know." This, Barry Long states is living in the past.

That is clear to me and it is true in my experience. Come to the senses and all that "past" goes.
by Mouse
Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:53 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

I apologise if my posts are sometimes somewhat convoluted, I often get an inspiration and I attempt to infuse my writing with that. Here is a short piece called The End of Self-Enquiry by Barry Long. I enjoy the way he makes such sense of it all. I think he writes very well and doesn't waste a word....
by Mouse
Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:47 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

Re: BARRY LONG

enigma wrote:I don't have any particular issue with him. I'm glad you find him useful.
Who has inspired you Enigma?
by Mouse
Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:47 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: BARRY LONG
Replies: 75
Views: 4562

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As you probably know Bruce I hear the truth of what he is saying. Barry Long uses words very precisely which I find useful. He has precise definitions for Consciousness and Awareness stating they are not the same, so there we go again. He is a very straight and practical teacher and has been said to...
by Mouse
Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: self's effect on existence
Replies: 35
Views: 1893

Re: self's effect on existence

I was interested in the philosophical position of nondualism with regard to letting the self free 'to do what it wants' (my interpretation), negativity included in it's activities. Are nondualists beyond Karma? The thread could equally be What effect has Self or Being on existence. I think it takes ...