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by Rick
Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:35 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The Dazzling Dark: A Non-Dual NDE
Replies: 43
Views: 4498

The Dazzling Dark: A Non-Dual NDE

In another thread on NDE's, speaking of my own limited knowledge/research on the subject, I said that "of what I've read of other's (NDE) experiences, it seems rather than awakening from it, it was more that they got "religion" from it, as opposed to awakening." I meant this in the sense that the ex...
by Rick
Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:18 pm
Forum: Spiritual Teachers
Topic: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein
Replies: 12
Views: 3549

Re: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein

I thought about this question all night and still this morning the only answer I can give you is that it is in my DNA to share what I learn, understand what I don't and to be of use where I can. In this forum our only method of communication is the written word. That means there is no "tone of voic...
by Rick
Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:46 pm
Forum: Spiritual Teachers
Topic: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein
Replies: 12
Views: 3549

Re: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein

Back to your earlier comment about the dedication of the teachers. Someone once asked Ramana Maharshi why he never travelled. He said, "I might not be here when someone needed me." Some do withdraw and decline interviews, but that seems rare. So Rick...why have you contributed over 400 posts? (That...
by Rick
Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:50 am
Forum: Spiritual Teachers
Topic: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein
Replies: 12
Views: 3549

Re: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein

I haven't been very active lately here - maybe that will change. And in my absence, I had forgotten several personalities, yours included, Rick...so I looked through your posts. Always clear, always respectful, always well presented. Thanks again for joining, and for being a welcoming member as wel...
by Rick
Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:27 pm
Forum: Spiritual Teachers
Topic: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein
Replies: 12
Views: 3549

Re: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein

Peter Fenner says of this: “One of the most delightful paradoxes is that at the end of the nondual path we realize that we haven't travelled any distance -- that no path has been traversed and that we haven't attained "anything." But we also realize that if we hadn't believed that there was a path ...
by Rick
Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:26 pm
Forum: Spiritual Teachers
Topic: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein
Replies: 12
Views: 3549

Re: Beware of the Blank State – Jean Klein

can you explain the idea of attention looking back into itself? please give me as many examples so that i can get this concept past my brain. JK worries around about the blank state on p.78 of "I Am" also. He says the mind will get stuck there -- that the "blank state" is the ultimate object. I say...
by Rick
Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

What they awakened to is the Absolute, I'm not sure you can make that case without some qualification. My sense is that what they awakened to was their perception of the Absolute. Some things just can not be adjudicated in the court of a mans mind. All I can say is that if one has only awakened to ...
by Rick
Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

Others are in their own unique conscious conditions and may awake to different perspectives than did Tolle. Consciousness is One and the Same for Everything. I wasn't sure what you were saying here when you said others "may awake to different perspective" in their own unique conscious conditions. I...
by Rick
Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

No doubt the definition of awakening matters here...Tolle was where he was in perspective when his awakening occurred...Others are in their own unique conscious conditions and may awake to different perspectives than did Tolle. WW Hmmm. This is interesting. What does awaken to different perspective...
by Rick
Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

but there are many who have awakened because of (NDEs). WW This is directed to WW and Jen. As I said, I have not researched the NDE thing in very much detail at all, but I do not doubt it to be a true phenomenon that occurs. I never had a NDE, but perhaps something close to one. I was 4 years old w...
by Rick
Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:07 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

I agree it is interesting. But what did you think about the 11 year old boy's account in which a "man" he met there told him: "This place (where you are at, out of your body) is in your mind's eye, your imagination; it is as it is because this is exactly what you need it to be. Your physical crisis...
by Rick
Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

There is a great deal to be explored within this phenomena. I don't recommend believing anything. Just be open to the possibility and let picture develop. I agree it is interesting. But what did you think about the 11 year old boy's account in which a "man" he met there told him: "This place (where...
by Rick
Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

I have not read extensively the accounts of near death experiences but I have read a couple of hand fulls recently. I am no expert by any means. But what I noted was that there was always a kind of "door" or "portal" through which the "person" was either given a choice to pass through or not (which...
by Rick
Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

There is no debate on whether these experiences take place, only some consideration on their true nature. WW Not sure if you all missed it or not when I posted it, but in the case of the 11 year old boy having a NDE, which I found interesting, in conversation with the "old man" he met "there", the ...
by Rick
Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:07 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How can we know there's no death
Replies: 537
Views: 34798

Re: How can we know there's no death

That's ok if you don't think I nearly died. I don't think a near death experience is the same as permanent death anyway. That's my point... its an experience we can talk about later.... permanent death is an irreversible process.... so there is no return from such an event. This is still a strawman...