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Veganism!

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:06 am
by Ervin
Peace. I am guessing that plant base food doesn't feel pain when eaten. I suppose plants don't have a nervous system to process pain. Wouldn't it be like cuting your nails or hair when we do it to fruits, vegetables, nuts, etc. Plants don't have brains also to process pain.

I would say that it would mean that we are more compassionate if we where vegan for the reasons I mentioned. Yet sometimes I wonder if there is truth to the bible and the Quran that obviously says you can eat meat.

What does everyone else think. Do you find monotheism to be true? Or do you believe veganism is a more compassionate approach to feeding ourselves?

Or do you disbelieve all revealed religion but still believe that eating animals and their products is ok?

Thanks

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:25 am
by Ervin
Is Eckhart Tolle vegan? I think that I have seen one of his books on the bookdepository that is aoatently about animals. Corect me if I am wrong please. I eat meat, poultry, egs and fish. So I will eat almost everything yet at times I think that being vegan is more compassionate.

What to do? I need some justification for standard diet!

Thanks

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:45 am
by hanss
Ervin wrote:I need some justification for standard diet!
Now you got it :wink: Serious, who do you need justification from? Personally I don't believe what the Bible says but if I am going to stop eat hamburgers there has to be a willingness or some guidance from The Source. Not just Little Me who wants to become a better person.

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:51 pm
by Onceler
Veganism is generally healthier for your body. I eat that way mostly, for health & environmental reasons. But it can be another ego-infused hall of mirrors, creating more rigidity of identity rather than freedom. It does certain things to your body which are generally positive. I don't think it's necessary to be free and may well trip you up (like anything else).

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:04 pm
by the key master
I had the new eggwhite veggie flatbread from dunkin donuts earlier today, and found it to be rather scrumptious. With that said,the pork roll egg n cheese on an everything bagel is one of the most bangin samwiches you can find, and will remain forever my preference in the breakfast samwich department. Although from what i understand, its prevalence is mostly limited to the north east coast, USA. Its a shame some peeps dont even know what pork roll is.

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:05 am
by Onceler
I hear ya, Key Master....

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:03 am
by Border Collie
These are personal issues, not ones to be forced on others by argument. That being said, I follow a vegetarian rather than vegan diet. I see no reason not to eat honey, for example, but each steak I buy encourages the slaughter of a cow.

The life and frequently disgusting death of domestic animals to provide an unrecognisable plastic wrapped chunk of protein on a supermarket shelf is rather shameful. If such animals were cared for, some justification might be made. But they are treated, on the whole, in a terrible way.

This is my opinion. You may wish to consider your actions and act appropriately. Take responsibility for your life.

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:52 am
by far_eastofwest
I'm not big into meat eating, got put off the pork when the powers that be decided that pig organs can be transplanted into humans. Bit too close for comfort (pigs = people). Not to mention that pig farms are simply horrible places to spend a 'now'. Free range pigs maybe.....
Gone off the lambs (and the kids too) when going on the Driving Holiday.... parked at the service station and in the big bay was the Sheep And Lamb transport truck. Those sheep, in the sun, with their broken legs sticking out the side. Again, not a very pleasant 'now' for these creatures.
Seems quite a backward step from the cavemen hunting down their wild prey and killing it swiftly.

Don't mind eggs, and of course to have eggs one must have hens. Seeing about equal hens and roosters hatch there is a huge excess of the roosters. Free range chicken will be served up on the table. Though it would be nice to have a hunter type around to catch one in the backyard and whip off its head for me rather than, again, the birds in the Chicken Transport Trucks....

I have to say, its not the death of the animals, its the hideous life, if you can call standing around in your own poop and never seeing the sunshine, unable to move even to the point of stretching limbs or laying down and pumped full of antibiotics to stay alive in such a terrible environment a life.
the antibiotics of course breed super germs which then mutate into types that can infect humans, like bird flu/swine flu, but thats another story.

No pork rolls for me......

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:26 pm
by the key master
Border Collie wrote:These are personal issues, not ones to be forced on others by argument. That being said, I follow a vegetarian rather than vegan diet. I see no reason not to eat honey,
I, coincidentally, just ate dinner with a vegan, and he made quite a compelling case about the honey thing. Apparently, bees use honey to make honey combs, which is, essentially, their homes. Then, beekeepers, chop the honey combs down, which causes the bees to begin the rebuilding process. This process, he elaborated, was the equivalent of turning the bees into slaves, which would be the reason to not eat honey.

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:58 pm
by arel
I've become more vegetarian in the last few years and the only reason is because I pay more attention to my body. I believe that's why some religions advocate that. No moral reasons. Morals are mental. Who here actually saw pain of an animal being killed?

And I would kill an animal to survive. There are instances in life when we need to face pain and do things that need to be done.

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:15 pm
by the key master
I'm just not seeing separateness between me and my porkroll :mrgreen:

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:41 pm
by goldieflower

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:59 pm
by the key master
http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/06/ ... 0020070601

Anyone know how to grow a porkroll tree??

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:17 pm
by goldieflower

Re: Veganism!

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:09 pm
by the key master
If the day comes where my printer can print porkroll egg and cheeses, I may never go outdoors again :mrgreen: