I too thank ((randomguy))
I wager that the part that you wish to point out is that bit in the message that identification with form can continue in consciousness past the experience of death. If so, what would you propose one do with the bit about identification with form persisting past the experience of death?
Go bigger randomguy - What would you 'identify' with?
Life / consciousness is not linear, or confined by time or any other dimension of itself.
Even in individuated form every moment 'experience' has the 'potential' and does recreate the 'big bang' of creation that explodes and flows and interacts and creates exponentially in every direction and every dimension of all life - which science - human beings looking at and testing for the properties of and labelling and measuring .. then eventually 'using' that knowledge, cannot find the 'beginning' or the 'end' of 'form', not in microscopic terms or in telescopic terms.
No matter how powerful a tool they build they find more evidence of this at both ends of the spectrum - within and outside of individuatedisms. (that's a new word I made up to apply for the tiniest element of an atom or the biggest galaxy as a system and every 'thing' in between, depending on 'how' you are viewing it, the parameters you've set for the 'boundaries' of it in your perceiving.)
- identifying with your particular 'form' of it is kind of missing the point within the exponential oneness that we are in constant, multi dimensional creation.
Life in any form is not isolated or definable except in this moment, in this circumstance, from this perspective - which is a fragment of the holographic reality AND is influenced by the looking creating another big bang out of the potential.
This will speak to trails too, who I thank too - before I logged on this morning I took a quiet moment because I watched a video interview yesterday by Gregg Braden - Entanglement that speaks to the field of awareness or whatever label science is using and all the experiments and the parameters etc they've been using to try to define it. His understanding is close and that he respects the wisdom of the elders and then looks for that in science is great.
Although I had an 'irk' that even he doesn't seem to realise that all elements combined into things have this holographic capacity and consciousness source and the ability to know it, not just humans - that's our fall from grace with think its only us, and that's a huge part of the flaws of science.
What they may be missing in the understanding of the holographic nature of the universe is that we don't have to travel to Mars to know Mars, we are Mars and therefore we already know Mars, we don't need to cut up an amoeba or a photon or a tree or a rock or a planet or a brain or a frog for its experience as a perspective -open our energy centres and ask it!! The knowledge is already there in the energy - we're studying the 'form' and the 'form' is energy which we already are and can know if we get our identification with our 'selves' out of the way.
While watching the video and madly taking notes of 'proof' - this experiment, that discovery, this result, this ....madness!!!!
Exponentially the energies - like a mini 'big bang' went off on all their tangents within my consciousness awareness - they're getting close, but are they still missing the point?
This big bang consciousness, which some, perceiving through the head mind find complex and confusing and as if any of the tangents are 'unrelated' - how can they be unrelated? it's all related!!
However many perspectives we allow to arise determines the collections that we call experience.
For every 'big bang' of experience we can be present and aware, and also aware that some of the perspectives cannot be seen from this 'angle' or 'depth' of experience.
a) that we can be aware that these mini big bangs happen all the time, but first we have to accept that
and b) that we can have consciousness of their source and pathways as they explode out simultaneously in different directions across different dimensions unrestricted.
This is what's seen in the light in collapsing of potentials.
This is what the ancients know - and how they live/d in harmony with it all, in acceptance, enjoyment and enthusiasm, through the portals of the heart mind.
Rather than the egoic / attached to individuated perspective through the head mind 'cut it up', 'profit' from it - use it all as either an obstacle to their conscious and the acceptance that all is one,
or as an enemy in that what they don't know they seek to destroy - even if they seek to destroy it in order to know it!!
or as a means to an end.. in some misguided head mind identification with their perspective of 'form'.
Part of the big bang explosion while watching the video was a notion of 'hope' that 'Trails would with her balance of compassion and scientific rigour weigh in on this - because I got thrown out of science class in the first year of high school - and exponentially the reason fold all in on itself - because there was a new boy from Iceland came into the class 'feeling' very out of sorts as he stuck out from the crowd and in my 'compassion' I sought to be the link, the conductor from his energies into the new atmosphere for him, and for the 'crowd' the trusted link from them feeling out of balance with this new 'influence' potential.. and the teacher saw it only as me 'talking to a boy' and threw me out of the class for not 'paying attention'.... ummm.... reeeaaaallllyyyy? and so my studies in 'science' were limited
It does and does not 'matter', but knowing there are more perspectives than we may be aware of, does matter.
Our rights start deep within our humanity; they end where another's begin~~ SmileyJen