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The Divided Brain

Post by ashley72 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:18 am

I have a strong sense that our Ego tendencies may be a product of our left hemisphere.

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Daniel Tammet

I've recently been reading a couple of books written by the autistic savant Daniel Tammet. He suffered major left hemisphere seizures as a young child. The other famous autistic savants seem to all have similar tales relating to left-hemisphere dysfunction.

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Kim Peek

Kim Peek probably one of the most famous savants, affectionately known as the Rain Man, has Agenesis of the corpus callosum. Whereby there is a complete or partial absence of the corpus callosum (the interconnection between left-right hemispheres).

Orlando Serrell wasn't born autistic - indeed, his savant skills only came about after a brain injury. In 1979, then ten-year-old Orlando was playing baseball when the ball struck him hard on the left side of his head. He fell to the ground but eventually got up to continue playing.

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Orlando Serrell


It has been confirmed that some savants operate by directly accessing low-level, less-processed information that exists in all human brains but is normally unavailable to normal conscious awareness.The attention to detail shown by many savants is a consequence of enhanced perception or sensory hypersensitivity in these unique individuals.

In other words, when the left-hemisphere stops interfering or filtering the right hemispheres capacity to attend to the here & now, our perspective of the world becomes fresh & unique (creative).

The divided Brain => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO2B8uI
Skills and behaviours seen in people with savant syndrome are so far unexplained. However, researchers think it might have something to do with the right hemisphere of the brain.

The brain is divided into two hemispheres, left and right, bridged by a thick band of nerve fibres called the corpus callosum. While left hemisphere skills are involved with sequential, logical, linear processing and the interpretation of symbolism (such as understanding words and body language), the skills of the right hemisphere are much more intuitive, concrete and direct (such as memory).

CT and MRI scans of the brains of people with savant syndrome suggest that the right hemisphere is compensating for impairment or a lack of skill in the left hemisphere. It seems that the right hemisphere of an individual with savant syndrome focuses its attention on one of the five senses – for example, if it concentrates on hearing, then the individual concerned may have a special skill in music.

It is thought that habitual memory centres of the brain take over from higher memory centres, which helps to explain why some autistic savants are like obsessive hobbyists who do the same thing over and over.

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Post by smiileyjen101 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:58 am

I'm really thrilled you're looking at this Ash..

on so many levels :D

The things that make me wonder are ... who says
As in who says whether a thing is an impairment or an improvement?
By whose judging and for whose purpose?
Why isn't it 'just is' by individual perspective?
Why isn't 'just is' in many varied and different forms enough?


I started looking at this after reading Proof of Heaven and not entirely accepting that the 'lower' (who says?) levels of our capacities are incapable of holding/cognitising the wider consciousness.
I have a strong sense that our Ego tendencies may be a product of our left hemisphere.
Dr Jill's wonderful sharings on her stroke seem to agree with you.
http://eckhart-tolle-forum.inner-growth ... it=Dr+Jill
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Re: The Divided Brain

Post by ashley72 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:59 am

Hi Jen,

Yes, there is something extraordinary going on between the left & right hemispheres of our brain. :wink:

http://vimeo.com/54635177

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Post by ashley72 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:11 pm

The Storytelling Left Hemisphere....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k6P5JiNzrk

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Post by rideforever » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:34 pm

Attention to detail is not the same thing as awake.
Nor is IQ.
This is just the mind's idea of what awake must be. The mind thinks, well the only reality is me and so if there is something big out there it must be "me x 1000".

But it is not me.

me cannot be real because it has lost contact with the Truth and operates on its own.
me's only awakening is to surrender itself after noticing its own falseness.
I was proud, and I demanded the finest teacher
.. .. and when he appeared
.. .. .. .. I was so small

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Post by ashley72 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:44 pm

Kim Peek, the famous Savant, was born with an abnormal brain.

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He was missing Corpus Callosum & posterior commissures...two areas that connect left & right hemispheres.

This abnormality gave Kim some extraordinary abilities. He had the astonishing ability to read a book in about half an hour, scanning two pages at a time, the left eye reading the left page, the right eye the right page - simultaneously - in about 10 seconds. What's more amazing, the level of his retention was estimated to be about 98%.

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Did Kim have two Conscious centres.... One in the left hemisphere & the other in the right hemisphere?



A short Documentary on Kim => http://youtu.be/dhcQG_KItZM

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Post by smiileyjen101 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:42 am

Ash thanks for sharing the Kim video. There are a few very wonderful gems in there - from Kim You don't have a handicap to be different. Everybody's different.

In hearing or reading that I know ... not just assume, know ... it will get twisted from its purity, it might be that some will hear you don't have to have...
not the purity of you don't have

I just know you know I"m gonna say, but let's back up a bit. :wink:
The things that make me wonder are ... who says
As in who says whether a thing is an impairment or an improvement?
By whose judging and for whose purpose?
Why isn't it 'just is' by individual perspective?
Why isn't 'just is' in many varied and different forms enough?
The supposition... and yes there is some evidence ... but the supposition that the messages between hemispheres in the brain are the conditioners and boundary makers of what can be interpreted, remembered, stored and retrieved and translated is being taken as the basis for the perspectives on savant abilities.

The notions in there contain many falsehoods - '"This character would be something that no one has ever seen before.'
Kim is the most amazing savant that has ever lived.

etc etc
Those things are not true.
What is true is that in thinking that autism or savant abilities (and add other abilities/experiences that some in science has issue with, or that society fears in some way) has been hidden away from the general population, either to protect them from society or to protect society from them.

Or when studied, these differences have been studied as a means to an end - the end being to support whatever premise the scientist is trying to prove. If the examiners already have a bias of course the findings will support the bias.

Think of the preposterous notions that have prevailed as truths in our societies when trying to accommodate or extinguish differences.

Kim is right. Everybody is different. Everybody has always been different.
How difference has been treated in the past, and still is to a great extent, is what is changing.
..

Another gem in there is the acknowledgement of him utilising 'preconscious or unconscious circuitry.'
Well my goodness... 'there are ways to measure these now'

There are? Then, my goodness they must be real!!

Shit, that means that those who were put to death for using them must have been innocent of crimes against natural man!!

..............
So, let's go beyond the suppositions of how a thing might be happening, now that we've accepted that they do happen, and into the realities that they are happening and how humankind can best learn from them and apply them.

Apologies if this is too big a leap too soon, my passion is kind of boundaryless :wink: .
It's not only things like the immense ability to store and recollect data that are experientially real that science cannot explain, but things like precognition, telepathy, energy healing, remote viewing, clair abilities, near death experience knowledges... all of these thngs also fall into the pan of preconscious or unconscious circuitry usage, as far as my understanding can make the links.

Do you think we will accept these differences? Or will we keep dissecting brains and labelling or denying the differences are not a handicap or mutation of humanity?

This is an excerpt from an interview with Chris Carter that speaks to some of these notions. I'd really like this to be a part of your consideration.
Question 6) In your excellent article "Does Consciousness depend on the Brain?" you argue that the transmission theory of consciousness is a better explanation than the productive theory. But some people say that, from a scientific point of view (even from a Popperian stance) the productive theory is better because it is in principle falsifiable.. But the transmission theory doesn't seem easy to refute since that it is consistent with all the facts and with any imaginable fact, making it untestable. What do you think of this objection?

Chris Carter: In the first place, the production theory – the idea that the brain produces the mind – has been convincingly falsified by the evidence. And holding on to a falsified belief is the antithesis of scientific thinking – it is ideological thinking.

But we need to be more clear here on what we mean by “theory,” and what we mean by “fact.” For instance, gravity is a fact of nature, yet we have theories of how gravity works. Similarly, evolution appears to be a historical fact – after all, there is the fossil record. Yet we also have theories of how evolution works.

Scientific theories are not speculation about isolated facts; they are tentative explanations about how certain facts fit together. When Isaac Newton proposed that a planet and the sun are attracted by a gravitational force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them, he proposed a relation between masses and distances—a relation that of course became celebrated as the Newtonian theory of gravity.

So, the question is: do the facts seem to indicate that the brain produces the mind? Or on the contrary, do they seem to indicate that the brain works as a receiver-transmitter for the mind? I argue in my new book that an examination of all of the evidence indicates the latter. The evidence is not consistent with production, but is consistent with transmission. In other words, it seems to be a fact that the brain works as a receiver-transmitter. A scientific transmission theory would propose to explain how the brain works this way. There have been several such theories, most due to brain scientists such as John Eccles, or to physicists such as Henry Stapp and Evan Harris Walker. To the extent that these transmission theories are testable, they are scientific theories. And Walker’s theory makes several testable predictions – it is not, as you put it, “consistent with any conceivable fact.”

So, in a nutshell, that objection is based upon a common misunderstanding of what a scientific theory really is, and so confuses fact with theory.

from http://subversivethinking.blogspot.com. ... riter.html
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Re: The Divided Brain

Post by smiileyjen101 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:03 am

I'm going to drop this little essay about differences in here too.

Again be wary of the conclusions one jumps to in attaching things to each other and note the 'differentiating' among the differences.

http://www.ucd.ie/artspgs/langimp/savants.pdf

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Post by smiileyjen101 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:20 am

Here's another great story...
When Jacob Barnett was 2 years old, he was diagnosed with moderate to severe autism. Doctors told his parents that the boy would likely never talk or read and would probably be forever unable to independently manage basic daily activities like tying his shoe laces.

But they were sorely, extraordinarily mistaken.

Jacob Barnett, 14-Year-Old With Asperger's Syndrome, May Be Smarter Than Einstein - Teenage genius Jacob Barnett wants you to stop learning and start thinkingToday, Barnett -- now 14 -- is a Master's student, on his way to earning a PhD in quantum physics. According to the BBC, the teen, who boasts an IQ of 170, has already been tipped to one day win the Nobel Prize.

....

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/0 ... stein.html
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Post by ashley72 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:18 pm

Jacob has been diagnosed with asperger syndrome....I knew a boy who had asperger syndrome, he was murdered by someone later in life. Which was a tragedy, it happened because he was hanging out with the wrong people, due to his condition.

He had great difficulty in socialising with others. He always appeared hyper vigilant in his behaviours. He struggled at school with both language & mathematics.

Interestingly, AS sufferers - "may be overly literal, and may have difficulty interpreting and responding to sarcasm, banter, or metaphorical speech. Difficulties with social interaction may also manifest in a lack of play with other children." This is definitely the case from my personal experience.

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Post by ashley72 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:11 pm

Could positive thinking act as a doorway into our right hemisphere?

Whenever I have protective or negative thoughts I now exchange them for positive affirmations. Positive thinking relies more on faith & creativity than a rigid set of rules. Positive thinking seems to align you more with the unknown than the known... But to take the step into the big unknown it helps to harness our self belief or self confidence going forward.

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Fight and flight seems to be more left hemisphere dominated where "fear" seems to be the modus operandi. On the hand, faith maybe more right hemisphere dominated where fear is left at the door.

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Post by SandyJoy » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:25 pm

No division. Nothing divided. Wholeness is All that you are. Totality is indivisible. One Awareness, Life, Identity is Single and Only.

One finds himself to be the perfectly balanced Identity as the Awareness that is being that which is before 'matter and time'.

To "know thyself" is to find the your Identity to be this Awareness right here and now. Unbound by divisions, resting in perfect balance, not divided; Self as Awareness precedes all tangibility in time. Awareness is prior to the body we seem to be looking out of.

Seeing the Truth is to realize the divinity of Your Self as the Perfect Balance right here, never divided, never --Now, when the division is gone; division means just what it says; prefix "di" means "two" and vision means seeing (double vision)

The disciples as Jesus "when will enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below---then will you enter the kingdom."

Without the double vision we can look out and see the divinity in all others and in all that we see.

No division, nothing outside of This Awareness-I-Identity which is the one and only Identity one can ever be; whole, prefect, at peace with Itself always in a divine balance--the inside and outside, the left and right, always only one yet appearing, seeming, believed as two separated things.

Seen from the Wholeness of Love's Identity as Awareness-- we find division and separation is impossible, an erroneous belief and we look around with the "eye's" or "I" as the Awareness of God and see therefore divided is just not so, never so.
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Post by Jesus » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:04 pm

SandyJoy wrote:No division. Nothing divided.

Greed divides.

The disciples as Jesus "when will enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below---then will you enter the kingdom."

Now let's not pick only what we like from Jesus. Lot of new agers love taking one or two little Jesus sayings and none of the rest. Isn't that true?

Why do you only use alittle of Jesus words and throw the rest away? Is it because Jesus true treachings are to hard for you to live?



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Post by Enlightened2B » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:46 pm

Jesus wrote:
SandyJoy wrote:No division. Nothing divided.

Greed divides.

The disciples as Jesus "when will enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below---then will you enter the kingdom."

Now let's not pick only what we like from Jesus. Lot of new agers love taking one or two little Jesus sayings and none of the rest. Isn't that true?

Why do you only use alittle of Jesus words and throw the rest away? Is it because Jesus true treachings are to hard for you to live?



The only teachings we know from Jesus are based out of a book from what he supposedly said. Based on that, his teachings are no different than Ramana Maharshi or Eckhart Tolle. They all are the same message. I think Sandy fluently understands what Jesus's message is based on her other posts.

Why idolize only "one teacher's" message? From what I've read about Jesus. He had an incredibly powerful message, but then again, so have many teachers.

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Post by Jesus » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:05 pm

Enlightened2B wrote:
Jesus wrote:
SandyJoy wrote:No division. Nothing divided.

Greed divides.

The disciples as Jesus "when will enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below---then will you enter the kingdom."

Now let's not pick only what we like from Jesus. Lot of new agers love taking one or two little Jesus sayings and none of the rest. Isn't that true?

Why do you only use alittle of Jesus words and throw the rest away? Is it because Jesus true treachings are to hard for you to live?



The only teachings we know from Jesus are based out of a book from what he supposedly said. Based on that, his teachings are no different than Ramana Maharshi or Eckhart Tolle. They all are the same message. I think Sandy fluently understands what Jesus's message is based on her other posts.

Why idolize only "one teacher's" message? From what I've read about Jesus. He had an incredibly powerful message, but then again, so have many teachers.
Well let's see. The church was started that has become a super-power, he healed many people, he raised the dead, walked on water, flew off into heaven :) , feed thousands of people on a major budget, his words somehow even got put in red (coincidence?), there were signs and wonders as a star in heaven showed the wise men the way.

Is that enough or unbelievable?

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