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Theory about the Universe

Post by sloth » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:02 am

The universe goes through stages of life, death and rebirth (karma). There is nothing inherently good or bad about these stages (sunyata) but thought makes it so (lila). Consciousness is the neutral observer of karma, no thought or emotion, just bliss (nirvana). In the beginning there was nothing, just pure consciousness, but God wanted to play the game of human life and, realising him/itself through human form, created the material world. God then perceived this with the senses and interpreted it with the mind. In essence, God opened pandora's box because for humans one moment could be joys and pleasures greater than anything one could imagine but other moments could be agony greater than any mortal could bear. Indulging in these pleasures were a sin that brought about immense suffering: humans either became attached to these pleasures invoking craving when they were lost, or their lifestyle became bland and petulant, indulging in little more than wine and orgies with the great god Bacchus. Similarly however, to know 'bad things' was to fully and completely enjoy the good things of life when they came.

Overall, humans liked the ups but hated the downs, so everything became dulled down, humans experienced moderated highs and moderated lows. They didn't experience all the joys that life has to bring but they didn't feel the painful lows either. Everything became simple and monotonous and humans worked jobs from 9-5, went home, had their wife cook them dinner, play with the kids then went to bed. They forgot who they truly were. Their full potential was lost. Intellectuals locked themselves in their rooms, crowding out their consciousness with vague - often dangerous - musings about philosophy and the nature of the universe while ordinary people filled their minds up with thoughts about their everyday routine and silly (often avoidable) problems and got lost in idle bickering and gossip with friends and family. But to God it's all just the same thing. God almost regrets making the universe, in fact, because of the sad truth about suffering but in the end the joys even out the score card and we are left with nothing, just pure neutral consciousness: no judgement, no thought, no universe, just being.

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Re: Theory about the Universe

Post by kutto » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:40 am

From the Way of Mastery (Which deals very directly with a lot of the above)

Imagine, then, a pool of clear, still water. Into it you drop a solitary pebble. From the pebble there radiate waves. This is what is occurring constantly in the field of your wave of awareness. As you have attracted to yourselves certain persons, places, things, objects, and above all, thoughts, beliefs and perceptions, you have dropped them like little pebbles into the still clear pool of your vast and eternal awareness. What you experience are the effects, or the ripples, of those pebbles. They literally join with the other ripples that you have created. As these ripples move out and touch one another and come back to you, this is the field of creation that makes up your physical, third-dimensional reality. You are, therefore, never experiencing anything except what you have chosen to create through your selection of the pebbles that you have dropped into the field of your awareness. You literally never experience a solitary thing. You do not experience objects. What you experience is the effect of a thought or a belief in objects. You never experience another person, for they also are made up of a whole web of vibrations. You could say that each person, each object, is really a field of relationships, unique and seemingly different from you, but a web of relationships nonetheless.

Shanti Christo Foundation (2012-09-06). The Way of Mastery ~ Part One: The Way of the Heart (The Way of Mastery (Kindle Edition)) (Kindle Locations 2436-2447). Shanti Christo Foundation. Kindle Edition.

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Re: Theory about the Universe

Post by sloth » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:50 pm

Thank you kutto. It strikes me that God is something of a jester, an immature child, a bit stupid even. He created the ego knowing he would experience suffering but simply couldn't help himself. Time and time again he decided to play the human game and forgot who he was, experiencing life from this perspective and then that perspective. It is not solipsism that I am God and everything else in the universe are material manifestations of this simple truth because God realises itself first in the form of this chess piece and then in the form of another chess piece. In the game of determinism he is a loser and then a winner. He plays this side of the war and then the other side. He is socialised with beliefs about right and wrong but they are relative to the culture in which he becomes determined. He is a cruel, vicious, calculating bastard but also full of kindness, joy and compassion. It depends what role he decides to play.

Those ripples in the lake are disturbances from another field of consciousness. I am here on the left side of the lake creating a whirlpool that distorts your point of reference other there and it is over there that you are sending ripples right back. But there is no difference between you and I, there is just awareness and awareness experiences itself first here, there and then everywhere, all over the lake sending those ripples back and forth. I'll stop sending ripples over if you do - who will stop first?

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Re: Theory about the Universe

Post by Enlightened2B » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:35 am

I think you guys should pitch your ideas to Neil Degrasse Tyson and perhaps they'll put it on the show 'Cosmos'. What do you think? 8)

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Re: Theory about the Universe

Post by sloth » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:22 pm

The cosmos is just another material manifestation of consciousness, a divine interpretation from the portal of infinite possibilities. There is nothing material, just energy organised in different ways in time and space that is interpreted in various manners.

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Re: Theory about the Universe

Post by Enlightened2B » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:27 pm

sloth wrote:The cosmos is just another material manifestation of consciousness, a divine interpretation from the portal of infinite possibilities. There is nothing material, just energy organised in different ways in time and space that is interpreted in various manners.
Yes, that's one way to look at it. I would be inclined to agree with you as well as I don't see any other explanation for it all, but the fact that it arises in the way that it does is utterly mind blowing. I think science is fascinating. If you think about how much we really DON'T understand from a human mind, about how the universe actually works, is pretty incredible.

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Re: Theory about the Universe

Post by sloth » Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:00 pm

Also pretty intimidating because you never know what is really happening to you. All you have are perceptions of the world in the way that you have been socialised to perceive it in. Outside of this bubble, we could all be on the verge of chaos. That was my experience with meditation: this bubble was burst and I knew for the first time what was truly happening.

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