People ignore agnostics.
Agnostics likely don't mind if they do.
Good point about the definition of "God." What I see a lot of atheists fighting against is the monotheistic God of the Bible, the meddling external deity. I don't believe in that God either!karmarider wrote:What the word "God" refers to is probably important to define as well. If it's the conventional meaning of an external authority entity, I'm an atheist. If it is the ineffable intelligence which I see everywhere and especially in the feeling of I am, I'm a believer. If it's anything else, I'm agnostic.karmarider wrote:I also participate on the Project Reason forum, which was started by Sam Harris. I learned there that atheism and agnostic are different claims. Atheism is about belief--"I don't believe God exists." Agnosticism is about knowledge--"I don't know whether God exists." (The word gnosis means knowledge.) So you can be an agnostic atheist! But I agree that anyone who claims 100% certainty that God doesn't exist is living in an unscientific fantasy world. All of human knowledge is limited. We don't know anything 100%.
Oops! Sorry Phil! Thank you!karmarider wrote:That was Phil2's post but I agree they are good quotes.Those were great quotes you pulled out, karmarider.