My only modification to what you write here would be to suggest that realisation happens via the mind (perhaps this is what you mean.) The mind is not the realiser but it's through the mind that it 'occurs'.runstrails wrote:Most western neo-advaita and eastern yogic traditions suggest that enlightenment is a special state to be achieved. And that this state is 'beyond the mind'. This keeps seekers seeking to achieve such a state, and if achieved, then to hold on to it. I should know, I kept looking for special states and special ways to feel.
However, traditional vedanta (Dayanada, Ramana etc) is very clear. Self-realization or self-knowledge is an understanding that happens in the intellect. In fact, a highly refined and discriminative intellect is one of the requirements for vedantic study. One needs to be able to understand the notion of satya (fundamental existence) and mithya (temporary reality). When one gets it, then there is no need for transcendental states. When this understanding is clear---then the intellect primarily identifies with awareness (or fundamental reality) resulting in moksha (or freedom from the trappings of everyday anxieties or suffering).
Given that the fundamental reality of our existence is not separate from our everyday, ordinary awareness, no transcendental states are needed to reach it. It is your nature. All that is needed is an understanding of this.
But I realize that I'm not going to convince any one on a Tolle forum that the intellect is your best ally not your enemy .
To put it simplistically, realisation is Source remembering itself via its play.
Just as delusion (which occurs in the mind) and seeking are Source at play, so is realisation - but, importantly (and some might say, paradoxically), THAT which is realised is not in the play as IT is that which gives rise to (and is the very 'substance' of) the play.
I love this line:
runstrails wrote:Given that the fundamental reality of our existence is not separate from our everyday, ordinary awareness, no transcendental states are needed to reach it. It is your nature. All that is needed is an understanding of this.
It reminds me of the great Buddhist philosopher Nagarjuna who said: "Nirvana is Samsara, rightly seen."