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Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:43 am
by Rubber Soul
I remember hearing Eckhart say that in an Oprah thing. I think it was A New Earth promotion. He also said it wasn't ever a problem for him, and chuckled, haha.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:10 am
by dijmart
Rubber Soul wrote:I remember hearing Eckhart say that in an Oprah thing. I think it was A New Earth promotion. He also said it wasn't ever a problem for him, and chuckled, haha.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?
Haha, years ago I watched the whole series with him and Oprah, so I'm sure I did, but don't remember specifically, however Id bet he only meant that one who is good looking might be so wrapped up in their outer beauty, they may not be able to look within.

You could say the same about money, fame, power, status, ect. It doesn't necessarily mean that these things can't or shouldn't be there, but that they can be obstacles.

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:46 am
by Rubber Soul
^I completely agree with all of that

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:00 am
by painBody
I do see some shred of truth in it, and I've certainly known (or known of) quite a few good looking people who became the "them" in "Forgive them for they know not what they do".

However, I highly doubt that ET said that in those exact words. In any case, I disagree with the statement, because, according to every woman who's ever known me (and some who didn't), I'm pretty damn good looking.

It must have been nothing more than a joke, if it was expressed in those words. It is one's path that determines the likelihood of becoming enlightened/awakened, not one's looks.

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:35 pm
by Rubber Soul
painBody wrote:I disagree with the statement, because, according to every woman who's ever known me (and some who didn't), I'm pretty damn good looking.
Me too, but have you transcended it?

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:16 pm
by dijmart
Rubber Soul wrote:
painBody wrote:I disagree with the statement, because, according to every woman who's ever known me (and some who didn't), I'm pretty damn good looking.
Me too, but have you transcended it?
Are you referring to non-attachment? In that sense you can enjoy it, why not? but you don't derive your sense of self from it and you know that since everything changes (comes and goes) one day you will look in the mirror and your good looks will change into an old man. So, if you were attached to your good looks, this may be devastating and you will suffer accordingly. If your not attached you just see the changes and move on...

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:08 am
by Rubber Soul
^Completely agree again

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:18 am
by painBody
Rubber Soul and dij, I will say this ...

For many years, my (again, according to women) good looks caused me a LOT of suffering, because, despite my looks, I've been totally alone almost my whole life. So, I used to constantly ask myself, "Why am I so alone, despite my good looks ?". Yes, I was very much attached to my good looks.

Today, that question is totally irrelevant to me. Sometimes, the ego does reappear and complain, but my surrender to the now overwhelms my ego, for the most part.

To answer your question, Rubber Soul, yes, I have transcended it (I don't identify with it), but I'm still aware, on the level of form, that women find me physically attractive.

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:59 am
by Rubber Soul
hmm, that's interesting

how old are you?

Re: Good-Looking People are Very Unlikely to be Enlightened?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:14 am
by painBody
Rubber Soul wrote:hmm, that's interesting

how old are you?
33