My pain body (anxiety and insomnia) is back!

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lovesexy
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My pain body (anxiety and insomnia) is back!

Post by lovesexy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:42 am

Hi All

3 years ago I started this journey when looking after my little boy full time. I had some kind of breakdown or breakthrough as my Mum would say :D - most probably due to my past problems of my Mother leaving us when I was 3. His emotions would affect my emotions enormously! The still do.
It started with insomnia, then turned to what I now know as anxiety. It was hell but I came off the antidepressant Paroxetine 18months ago whilst enveloping myself in the teachings of Tolle, Mooji etc..it helped me massively. At that time I was prescribed Zopliclone for sleep which I took for a year and eventually weaned myself off of that too. For 3-4 months I was completely off meds and was meditating every day. I was well and sleeping well. Then slowly but surely I let go of the meditation and general awareness of my thoughts. Occasionally I'd have an anxiety crisis for a day or so about the usual stuff, money worries etc. And if I couldn't sleep I'd take a Zopliclone as I know from experience that insomnia takes me only one place. Then once I had let the thoughts pass I would be able to sleep without aid again. I saw this as somewhat of a triumph as my awareness had quickly dissipated the pain body.
Recently there has been a ridiculous amount of stress with work and our boy's own sleeping problems - he's just started school and our whole routine has changed. I've realised that my son is often the trigger as I probably haven't yet let go of my past fully. Anyway,boom, I'm back in the pain body again! I've been staying present, reading the books again, watching the videos, meditating. The sleep med has helped me to tackle (let go) one thing at a time but last night is the first time it didn't really work! I'm now exhausted and finding it very hard to stay present as the sleep worry adds too much weight to an already extremely challenging time.
I was just wondering if any of you guys have experienced similar problems and what you did in the short and long term to get through.
Although I was fine on antidepressants, slept well etc..I am absolutely determined to take the spiritual route as I realise understanding my issues, accepting them, surrendering to them is the only way
to be free. Added to that, my spiritual path thus far has made me a much more tolerant, empathetic person.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: My pain body (anxiety and insomnia) is back!

Post by turiya » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:05 am

I don't have any advice.

But, since you mentioned Mooji, here's one of my favorites:

https://youtu.be/OVI3VQEjJFo

:D
“We ourselves are not an illusory part of Reality; rather are we Reality itself illusorily conceived.” - Wei Wu Wei

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Re: My pain body (anxiety and insomnia) is back!

Post by sardinelover » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:37 pm

I like to call the mind a negativity machine. All it does for most of the time is generate negative thoughts that lead to worry, stress and anxiety. Once you realize that these negative thoughts are just nonsense, mind stuff, they can no longer affect you.

Moreover, the mind is never present, it is always lost in memory (past) or anticipation (future). Guilt, regret, remorse are the result of too much past. Worry, stress and anxiety are the result of too much future.

Be aware of your thoughts (watching the thinker), and in almost all cases, the thoughts will subside quickly within a matter of minutes. When the mind is still, there is presence. In this state, there is no past or future, only now. With no past or future, there is only stillness and peace.

So next time you feel anxiety, stress or worry, you know that it is due to a lack of presence. When you feel negative emotions, you can laugh about it because It's just your mind up to it's old tricks. Negativity is a purely human phenomena - it is an illusion, like an mirage in the desert. It's not real, and that's why you can laugh about it, because you are not deceived. :)
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Post by Newman » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:02 pm

Hi I always had issues getting to sleep then I learned this very simple technique and it works great on me! Seriously no more are the nights where I would peer at the clock and it read 1am then 2 am them 3 am... I would just simply fall asleep and then awake at either time of night I need to go to the toilet or the next morning!

Its actually from a meditation technique but much simpler, all you have to do is on every out breath count from 10 to 1, so 10 breath out, 9 breath out, 8 breath out and so on. When you get to 1 simply start at 10 again! If you find it hard to keep track and your mind wonders I found it works equally well from 5!

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Post by sushant » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:21 am

hello there i am also having troble sleeping.I am very positive towards the day i eat good food.Do breathing exercises and meditation and go to wall climbing also but at night i have trouble falling a sleep.can any one help me

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Post by Nyseto » Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:07 pm

Become more interested in that which is aware of your anxiety than your anxiety itself. At the very root of your anxiety is peace and happiness.
"There is no such thing as enlightenment. The appreciation of this fact is itself enlightenment." -Nisargadatta Maharaj

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Post by Webwanderer » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:30 am

Sometimes when I can't sleep I find there is a level of tension from whatever issues of the day is lingering in my body. Something I find that helps is I get up and do some physical exercise to burn off the excess energy. It wakes me up a bit at first but usually I can ride the come down right into sleep.

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Post by sushant » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:54 am

well i am all good now i was just worried for no reason.its was just that night i was so worried and had so many thoughts running around me.thank you guys for your supoort.
I do have a question though how fo you become aware of what is happening around you.i mean i do become aware that thoughts are comming and it happens so fast that i got caught up in the thoughts so soon and cant really do anything about it.
how do you guys becone present about it.

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Post by Webwanderer » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:49 pm

Don't make a big deal out of becoming distracted. In other words, don't give it energy that is best focused on clear presence. It's all part of a necessary process. When you recognize a thought stream happening, simply let it go and return to wakefulness. It's also important to practice some type of structured meditation which helps train the mind to a familiarity with presence. Consistency over time will produce good results.

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Post by waverider » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:05 pm

Nyseto wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:07 pm
Become more interested in that which is aware of your anxiety than your anxiety itself. At the very root of your anxiety is peace and happiness.
Rupert spira says that. But how does that alleviate suffering? I often ask myself "am i aware?" Answer: yes. So what.

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Post by Nyseto » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:55 pm

waverider wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:05 pm
Nyseto wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:07 pm
Become more interested in that which is aware of your anxiety than your anxiety itself. At the very root of your anxiety is peace and happiness.
Rupert spira says that. But how does that alleviate suffering? I often ask myself "am i aware?" Answer: yes. So what.
Awareness knows no suffering, it's nature is peace because it says yes to all because no separation exists. Your mind says "so what" because it wants to overlook it for something more objective because it's inherent nature is to never be at peace. The point of asking yourself if you are aware is to break identification with your mind. But as soon as you do it for an instant, your mind pulls you right back in out of habit. No, there is no, "so what" or "yeah but" or "next". These are all mechanisms of the mind to keep itself alive. At the core of suffering is peace and happiness.

There is no alleviation of suffering, there is only seeing clearly that there is no one there who suffers. You keep believing yourself to be the entity searching alleviation from suffering by resisting your resistance. That's why there is suffering. That suffering is trying to call you back to happiness, to remind you to stop. Don't just become more interested in that which is aware, but ABIDE as that. You don't find some good answer to alleviate the suffering, you just abide as the peace that's always present. And if you just feel the suffering on a visceral level without judgment, then it's just a strong feeling. It becomes neutral.
"There is no such thing as enlightenment. The appreciation of this fact is itself enlightenment." -Nisargadatta Maharaj

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