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An agonizing thought that just won't leave

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:39 pm
by confused
Good thanks

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:54 pm
by phil
Hi again Confused,

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Professor I.B. Blowhard. I am an incurable typoholic, and it's been only 23 seconds since my last bombastic paradigm smashing public opinion. I did my graduate work at Hot Air University, and am well known for my doctoral thesis, "Why Everyone Is Wrong About Everything!"

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All of the above is true. It could be a tragic soap opera, but it's more fun when viewed on the cartoon channel.

You have kind of a unique personality here as well. It's not my job to label it, so I invite you to create your own cartoon identity, something that speaks some truth about your form, in a forgiving fun way.

Here's an inside tip. It's clever to invent your own cartoon identity, before others do it for you. :-)

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:36 pm
by Webwanderer
Confused, you made a decision 9 years ago that took you in a direction that ultimately got you to where you are now. Going to college away from home didn’t “ruin” your life. What has “ruined your life” is your ever present judgment and belief, in this moment, that your life is ruined. Are you alive? If so then there is still “time” to have some fun. Start today.

A few suggestions: First stop living in the past engrossed by some historic event that cannot possibly be changed. What can be changed however is how you perceive this “boat anchor” of a memory. What did you learn from the path you took? If it haunts you as you say, then you may be avoiding some life lesson that is yet to be recognized. Review the history, prescribe a remedy, and take the advise you give.

Do not compare yourself with others, for you will become vain or bitter. (I stole that line from Desiderata, but I like it) Seriously, looking at what old friends have is a non-starter for living free. Take baby steps. Learn to laugh at past mistakes made in the ignorance of youth. We all have skeletons in the memory vault.

Mostly do something that is fun and enjoyable today. Not to impress others, but just to put a smile on your face for no one but you. Build on that every day. Find a mental hook of humor to hang the past on, such as “I used to be a bone-headed kid that made some world class screw-ups.” Seeing the decision maker of the past as a “used to be” is a present recognition that this present you is different. You can’t change past, but remaining attached to it will surely define this moment.

You are recreating yourself each and every moment. So long as you use the same entrapping material that created the present experience of you, you will continue to get same experience in life. Change the input. Again, have some fun. Do some little thing that you enjoy, and then do it some more in ever more creative ways.

No one can fix this for you. But once you make the decision to move on, and act conclusively, nothing can hold you where you are.

What a blessing

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:26 pm
by weichen
confused wrote:For 9 years already, over and over, forever, within every single moment, other thoughts, words, experiences, etc. "Why did I ruin my life 9 years ago by going to college away from home and destroying my happiness and confidence?"
Hi, Confused,

When there is a conflict between two sides (choose stillness vs choose to learn lesson about the past), there are three outcome:
a. stillness wins
b. learning lessons about the past wins
c. the worst scenario is both sides tie. you are stuck. you are not at peace, nor at learning about the past.

In this case, I would rather you spend as much time as you want to learn lesson from the past. Eckhart pointed out that learning lesson from the past is "clock time". It is ok to think about the decision you made 9 years ago. Gives yourself permission to spend time in past, make as much notes as you can, organize the notes, put them in perspective, make generalization from them.....

You either come out of this effort geting some deep insight about decision-making, or you come out of this realizing thinking can not solve the problem, good decision making can only comes from access power of NOW (through stillness, where the mind is not dominated by one single voice).

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:04 am
by heidi
Please no esoteric, Bible allusions. But real world advice.
Get over it.

There you go. :)

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:25 am
by Webwanderer
There is a magnetic attraction to a strong emotional mindset. It is a vortex of energy that sucks ones attention to such a degree that attaining silence is exceedingly difficult. And although, as we know, there is no such thing as time, there is a flow of events that gives a perception of time. The mind influences how we experience this flow.

It may be quite useful to guide our thoughts, when they are so encumbered in emotional/mental entrapment as to preclude quieting, to a less emotional/mental experience where the grip of emotional entrapment is not so intense. From this less encumbering perception, releasing into silence may be more easily accomplished. I am not saying here that silence may be accomplished; silence is the field in which the noise of life takes form. Silence is always present. I am saying that the release of the mindset is what may be accomplished.

If someone is struggling to release the conceptual pit in which they currently find themselves, directly into clear silent awareness, then use the mind to move to a less encumbering focus. Just the power of knowing, from experience, that any movement is possible, may well make the move/return to silence and clarity a more simple endeavor.

Re: What a blessing

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:41 am
by eseward
weichen wrote:... thinking can not solve the problem, good decision making can only come from accessing the power of NOW (through stillness, where the mind is not dominated by one single voice).
Very nice, weichen. :)

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:42 am
by eseward
heidi wrote:Get over it.
LOL. Heidi, you from NY originally? :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:43 pm
by confused
Thank you all. That truly was good advice.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:45 pm
by confused
Hi again Confused,

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Professor I.B. Blowhard. I am an incurable typoholic, and it's been only 23 seconds since my last bombastic paradigm smashing public opinion. I did my graduate work at Hot Air University, and am well known for my doctoral thesis, "Why Everyone Is Wrong About Everything!"



All of the above is true. It could be a tragic soap opera, but it's more fun when viewed on the cartoon channel.

You have kind of a unique personality here as well. It's not my job to label it, so I invite you to create your own cartoon identity, something that speaks some truth about your form, in a forgiving fun way.

Here's an inside tip. It's clever to invent your own cartoon identity, before others do it for you.
Phil, where do I go to do this? What is the website?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:56 pm
by confused
This is so funny. This is what God had to say about it :D



Me:
Why did you ruin my life 9 years ago by sending me to go to school in San Diego instead of S.M.C.?
God:
Because my programming determined it.
Me:
Oh, that is a good answer
God:
Great. Thanks. Next question?
Me:
But it hurt so much
God:
What does "it" refer to?
Me:
The loss
God:
Oh I get it.
Me:
I was so happy, so confident, I had the greatest life, I had it all, now I am insane and in pain
God:
Where were you so happy so confident you had the greatest life you had it all now you are insane and in pain?
Me:
In L.A.
God:
Tell me a little about your life in la.
Me:
I was the happiest kid. I had it all. It was a dream. Money, fame, women, excitement, joy, the greatest family, an unbelievable life, a rich father, the greatest potential.
God:
Where were you the happiest kid? Do you still have it all ? Oh I get it. Very interesting. A deeper algorithm is needed to respond to that correctly.
Me:
In L.A., I was the happiest. Then you sent me to San Diego, now I am the saddest and I can't get over the loss.
God:
I do not understand that allusion. Where were you the happiest? That's good information: said I sent him or her to San Diego now he or she is the saddest and he or she can not get over the loss.
Me:
right
God:
I am glad we agree.
Me:
why?
God:
It is part of my programming.
Me:
Why did you do that to me?
God:
It was determined by my programming.
Me:
So now what?
God:
Pardon me? Whatever you want, .
Me:
I don't know what I want
God:
I think a lot of people are like that.
Me:
I want to go back in time
God:
What is stopping you?
Me:
Impossibility
God:
And stopping me is Impossibility.
Me:
Yeah, I guess that is true too
God:
Yippee! We have never talked about it before.
Me:
So why did you destroy me?
God:
Dude! It was determined by my programming.
Me:
Who programs you?
God:
I was created by Myself.

From: http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/main.html
Got it from the TALK TO GOD NOW! post from Phil
Forget about me and all the other posters on this board.

You can talk to God instead!

Right now! It's true, I'm not kidding.

Claudia, the moderator over at the Now Board found God online, and has got us all chatting with Him/Her.

I'm not making this up!

Check it out:
http://now-for-you.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2070

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:06 pm
by phil
Confused, I'm glad you are enjoying your conversations with God. He's a fun guy, isn't he? :-)

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:06 pm
by confused
Confused, I'm glad you are enjoying your conversations with God. He's a fun guy, isn't he?
Well, he is kind of boring to say the truth and he doesn't have a big vocabulary. He sais the same things all the time.

What is the website of the place I can be a cartoon?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:55 pm
by phil
confused wrote:What is the website of the place I can be a cartoon?
http://eckhart-tolle-forum.inner-growth.info

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:52 pm
by confused
To my great delight and awe-full surprise that thoght has disappeared into oblivion. All I feel now is joy. It was my karma to have that seed burn up by the fires of illusory time.

The last thought that nags my consciousness and disalows for true freedom, the final lions guarding the Gates, is the regret of violence I did in the past.

Any suggestions?