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The Last Samurai

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:42 am
by BrahmanEternal

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:31 am
by Narz
What a waste of life.

I, for one, do not see suicide as a noble act.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:55 pm
by BrahmanEternal
Hmm, maybe you missed something Narz, the point i see most important here is that when he died he finally experienced ALL of the flowers as perfect , before he and "Tom" had numerous spiritual conversations why all of the flowers are not made perfect while most of them are very fragile and short lived, he was already dead anyway so it was part of a ritual way to "go home", death is moment of truth there is no illusion at this point one has to face it so quickly that mind has to create an illusion that it will never come like most people beleive they will never die and enjoy their egos for many years to come.
But as my father says "i bloody cant beleive how fast old age came to my door".
The other important thing i see in this clip is .. Namaste.... bowing to your greatest enemy is one of the most unselfish things you can do to contribute to unity of mankind.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:38 am
by Narz
BrahmanEternal wrote:Hmm, maybe you missed something Narz, the point i see most important here is that when he died he finally experienced ALL of the flowers as perfect , before he and "Tom" had numerous spiritual conversations why all of the flowers are not made perfect while most of them are very fragile and short lived, he was already dead anyway so it was part of a ritual way to "go home", death is moment of truth there is no illusion at this point one has to face it so quickly that mind has to create an illusion that it will never come like most people beleive they will never die and enjoy their egos for many years to come.
But as my father says "i bloody cant beleive how fast old age came to my door".
I know I'm going to die but I don't plan to hasten it a comin'. I don't see how death is any more a moment of truth than any moment before it. Maybe the ego lives on in the afterlife. ;)
BrahmanEternal wrote:The other important thing i see in this clip is .. Namaste.... bowing to your greatest enemy is one of the most unselfish things you can do to contribute to unity of mankind.
I don't understand this. What do you mean?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:22 am
by ninjin
Narz the point is if you kill yourself the war stops. =)
Just wish that the stupid leaders would do the same thing before they start the war. It would be much more efficient.

And about death. When your dying its the only time you ever now what will happen next therefore you let go of all the need for control and can experience the hole thing with a open mind.
The above is only true if you cannot be saved. Very few people let go of life willingly if there is a chance they will live.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:04 pm
by Seancho
ninjin wrote:Narz the point is if you kill yourself the war stops. =)
No war sounds good. Now if only we has a way to kill ourselves without commiting suicide..

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:49 pm
by Webwanderer
No war sounds good. Now if only we has a way to kill ourselves without commiting suicide..
How about we kill off the ego, or at least de-thrown the thing so that it looses it's power and authority. :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:05 pm
by BrahmanEternal
ninjin wrote: And about death. When your dying its the only time you ever now what will happen next therefore you let go of all the need for control and can experience the hole thing with a open mind.
The above is only true if you cannot be saved. Very few people let go of life willingly if there is a chance they will live.
Yes this is good answer on Narz'es question,
Death shouldnt be any more of a true moment then other moments but this is when people will most probably give up their investment in a false self.