A question to the group-Reality Check

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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:15 am

The blog works fine - I just clicked on it.

Thats strange everytime I try I get this window that says

The document contains no data.
The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.

I am in South America I wonder if that is the problem.

I do not interact with people (through language) during the "other 23 hours".
I don't "do anything with all that time" - Doing happens - making things, fixing things, eating, long walks, just sitting and observing, exploring, etc.

Sounds great I know what you mean, most of my time I am there also but then I do get pulled back now and then.

A Human Experience arises in Pure Awareness that is characterized by fearless, conflictless, joyfull Peace.

Thanks for the sharing mi amigo
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Randji
Do not meditate-be!
Do not think that you are-be!
Do not think about being-you are!
Sri Ramana

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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:13 am

HermitLoon wrote: "I" don't "do anything with all that time" - Doing happens - making things, fixing things, eating, long walks, just sitting and observing, exploring, etc. - whatever arises that seems to need doing.
A Human Experience arises in Pure Awareness that is characterized by doing in fearless, conflictless, joyfull Peace.
That's about it.
I wanted to get back to this. You speak very much like a person who has been blessed with nirvikalpa samadhi.
Some one I have since I have been 16 had a great love for describes this below.

However according to Yogananda it tooks year and years doing all those Kriyas to finally land into nirvikalpa samadhi. So when you have people that have not done much in their lives go and pick up ET PON book and after reading it they say they have awoken it makes one wonder to say the least.
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Paramahansa Yogananda describes this degree of samadhi as follows
In the most advanced state [of samadhi], nirvikalpa samadhi, the soul realizes itself and Spirit as one. The ego consciousness, the soul consciousness, and the ocean of Spirit are seen all existing together. It is the state of simultaneously watching the ocean of Spirit and the waves of creation. The individual no longer sees himself as a "John Smith" related to a particular environment; he realizes that the ocean of Spirit has become not only the wave of John Smith but also the waves of all ofter lives. In nirvikalpa the soul is simultaneously conscious of Spirit within and creation without
. The divine man in the nirvikalpa state may even engage in performance of his material duties with no loss of inner God-union.
Do not meditate-be!
Do not think that you are-be!
Do not think about being-you are!
Sri Ramana

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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by HermitLoon » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:42 am

“Samadhi” by Paramhansa Yogananda

Vanished the veils of light and shade,
Lifted every vapor of sorrow,
Sailed away all dawns of fleeting joy,
Gone the dim sensory mirage.
Love, hate, health, disease, life, death,
Perished these false shadows on the screen of duality.
By magic wand of intuition deep
Past, future, no more for me,
But ever-present, all-flowing I, I, everywhere.
Planets, stars, stardust, earth,
Thoughts of all beings, past, present, to come,
Every blade of grass, myself, mankind,
Each particle of universal dust,
I swallowed, transmuted all
Into a vast ocean of my own one Being!
Smoldering joy, oft-puffed by meditation
Burst into immortal flames of bliss,
Consumed my tears, my frame, my all.
Thou art I, I am Thou, Knowing, Knower, Known, as One!
Tranquilled thrill, eternally living, ever-new peace!
Enjoyable beyond imagination of expectancy, Samadhi bliss!

Not an unconscious state
Or mental chloroform without wilful return,
Samadhi but extends my conscious realm
Beyond limits of the mortal frame to farthest boundary of eternity where I, the Cosmic Sea,
Watch the little ego floating in Me.
Mobile murmurs of atoms are heard,
Flowing seas change into vapors of nebulae!
Aum blows upon vapors, opening wondrously their veils,
Oceans stand revealed, shining electrons!

Till, at last sound of the cosmic drum,
Gone forever fitful, flickering shadows of mortal memory. Vanish the grosser lights into eternal rays
Of all-pervading bliss.
Eternity and I, one united ray.
From joy I came, for joy I lived, in sacred joy I melt.
Spotless is my mental sky, below, ahead, and high above.
A tiny bubble of laughter I, Become the Sea of Mirth Itself.
I, in everything, enter the Great Myself.
Peace

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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:50 am

HermitLoon wrote:“Samadhi” by Paramhansa Yogananda
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Beautiful Thanks
Could you offer a comparasion of Samadhi to non diality awakening
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by HermitLoon » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:55 am

Neti, Neti

Peace
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:19 pm

HermitLoon wrote:Neti, Neti

Peace
Thanks I will take that to be not the same.
I can get to your blog site now thanks.
They only have one month November showing.
Do you have achrives of other months.
November was great reminds me very much of
my teacher Nisargadatta Maharaj.
Peace
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Do not meditate-be!
Do not think that you are-be!
Do not think about being-you are!
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by Juno » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:14 pm

HL you are so succinct! I hope I am when I grow up.
by thinking of something you create an entity and by thinking of nothing you create another. Let such erroneous thinking perish utterly, and then nothing will remain for you to go seeking!
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by great2be » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:16 am

Juno wrote:HL you are so succinct! I hope I am when I grow up.
Did you answer the question HL?
An imaginary seeker, seeking an imaginary goal.
Realise the nature of imagination and the fallacious effort ends.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing it's tail?

What happens when the dog runs faster?

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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:38 pm

great2be wrote:
Juno wrote:HL you are so succinct! I hope I am when I grow up.
Did you answer the question HL?
Not this, not this was not the answer I was hoping for so whats new
There are many Samadhi(s) I was asking of one specific one as it seems to run close to what some people are claiming to experience in the non duality circles.
There is also what is called Sahaj Samadhi or natural Samadhi which is akin to levels of consciousness spoken by non duality teachers as final Liberation. Interesting enough I really heard little about this natural type of Samadhi before Non duality made its big hit .
I was hoping that HL could shed some light on this as I suspect Yogaananda had a great influence in his life.
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Do not think about being-you are!
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by HermitLoon » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:01 pm

The closest to "Reality" - "Truth" - that language (words) can come is the statement "i don't know".

"The Tao that can be spoken is not the Tao".

" On realization, you feel complete, fulfilled, free from the pleasure-pain complex, and yet not always able to explain what happened, why and how. You can put it only in negative terms: "Nothing is wrong with me any longer". It is only by comparison with the past that you know that you are out of it. Otherwise, you are just yourself. Don't try to convey it to others. If you can, it is not the real thing. Be silent and watch it expressing itself in action." (p.332 of "I Am That")
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:45 pm

HermitLoon wrote:The closest to "Reality" - "Truth" - that language (words) can come is the statement "i don't know".
Maybe so but a very wise man wrote these words below. To me those words are Truth and I give much thanks to whoever the author may be.

We are nothing more than an experiment by the Creator in the hypothetical illusion of separation,
which, because of Eternal Oneness, can never actually be.
But why does our physical existence seem so real?
Because the Experiment is as perfect as The Creator -
Because The Creator designed our senses to produce that effect.
We are The Creator having a hypothetical Human Experience
and, as such, we are, have always been and always will be.
Knowing this I can, as The Creator, enjoy the hypothetical illusions
of the experiment, and, at the same time, have the comfort
of the foreverness of my being. There is only one "God" and we are it.

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Do not meditate-be!
Do not think that you are-be!
Do not think about being-you are!
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by HermitLoon » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:24 pm

Neti, Neti (not this, not that)
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:31 pm

HermitLoon wrote:Neti, Neti (not this, not that)
Peace
:) :) :)
Do not meditate-be!
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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by mistral » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:35 pm

This just arrived in my email...it seems to suit this thread as well as any

Today's Gem -- Paradox

Your true Nature is the Paradox to take care of all paradoxes: There
is nothing that is not you and nothing that is you;

The Aware Space is and isn't its contents; you care and you don't
care; you control things and they just happen.

This may sound silly, but in fact it is the perfection of wisdom.
And it works. Spiritual life is all paradox. It's the union of
opposites. It's having your cherry cake and eating it.

It finds you on the way Home and all the way Home, seated, with your
feet up, by the fire of God's love.

From: Open to the Source, by Douglas Harding.

I have always loved Douglas Harding and his way with the words....

Mistral- Merry Angel

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Re: A question to the group-Reality Check

Post by DWBH1953 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:26 pm

mistral wrote: I have always loved Douglas Harding and his way with the words....

Mistral- Merry Angel
Thanks I always enjoyed the headless one.
Peace
Randji
Do not meditate-be!
Do not think that you are-be!
Do not think about being-you are!
Sri Ramana

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