Does an awakened one need to forgive others...

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Tara
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Re: Does an awakened one need to forgive others...

Post by Tara » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:05 pm

Yes thanks Andy! I understand the ANE quote. I think Byron Katie has been a huge help to me re: forgiveness.

A couple questions:
IF we think we need to forgive someone for something, aren't we essentially doing the same thing..ex: someone called me a name, I take offense to it and harbor ill feelings...so they were mean and I am mean too...my ill feelings toward them would be similiar energy back to them as them calling me a name??

My understanding which has actually helped me recently is first accept it, accept that their pain body was involved and to look past the INSANITY and realize they (have) or see their true nature.

What if I speak something from my painbody which really ticks off my husband...I apologize...he may or may not "accept" "forgive"...but why would I be apologizing??? seeking forgiveness??? It is what it is, it is the past, I cant take it back..

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Re: Does an awakened one need to forgive others...

Post by HermitLoon » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:57 pm

I might suggest a book called "Radical Forgiveness" by Tipping, where it is suggested that "Forgiveness" involves a judgement that "something happened that should not have happened" - and that perhaps "there is nothing to forgive".
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Re: Does an awakened one need to forgive others...

Post by +Jim+ » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:25 pm

Tara wrote: What if I speak something from my painbody which really ticks off my husband...I apologize...he may or may not "accept" "forgive"...but why would I be apologizing??? seeking forgiveness??? It is what it is, it is the past, I cant take it back..
Sometimes one may say something that isn't true, just to hurt/attack/annoy another - afterwards one may see the untruth, and 'apologise', it can be just an acknowledgement of the untruth.

The original question was about from an awakened perspective, and from there, there is nothing to forgive, as it is seen that nothing could be different from the way it was. Love does understand all.
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