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procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:15 pm
by joe
Everytime I want to practice presence for the day, my mind keeps procrastinating. How do you just begin mindfulness without a structure or guiding method?

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:28 am
by Ananda
Differentiate between yourself and the mind.

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:26 am
by Hand
In my opinion, it is not *procrastination* but that the mind loves to fill up every waking moment with 'something', thoughts rush in and take over - if these thoughts are allowed to drift by instead of becoming 'front page news'.....I find this very hard myself, I get caught up in my thoughts all the time.

Perhaps one way could be to focus on the activity you are doing, if thoughts come in, just gently push them aside - or if it is something 'important' then write it down and carry on doing what you are doing?

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:13 am
by joe
Hand wrote:In my opinion, it is not *procrastination* but that the mind loves to fill up every waking moment with 'something', thoughts rush in and take over - if these thoughts are allowed to drift by instead of becoming 'front page news'.....I find this very hard myself, I get caught up in my thoughts all the time.

Perhaps one way could be to focus on the activity you are doing, if thoughts come in, just gently push them aside - or if it is something 'important' then write it down and carry on doing what you are doing?
That seems like a good technique. What do you use?

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:13 pm
by Marcel Franke
> How do you

By focussing into that which is already free.
There is no need to focus to your thoughts.
It does not matter which thoughts pop inside your brains.
It is not about your thoughts.
You are aware of some thoughts.
Otherwise, how could you tell us about them ?
Just as you are aware of the birds singing.
Are you a bird ?
Just as you are aware of the rumbling of your guts.
Are you the guts ?
Just as you are aware of emotions in your body.
Are you those emotions ?
Just as you are aware of an aeroplane in the sky.
Are you an aeroplane ?
Those are all the things that change.
Body, birds, emotions, aeroplanes, thoughts.
Passing by, rotting, dying, deteriorating, born, created, growing, never seen again.
But You are the One that notices the thoughts, the emotions, the birds,
the aeroplanes, the taste of food, objects.
And that is where our focus goes to. To the objective.
But never, or hardly, to the One that notices.
Never to the Noticing itself.
Try it.
It is an easy realization.
Look at something.
Why is it there ?
It is only there because it is seen.
This means You are there. Feel that.
What is the moment that you are there ?
Always now. Feel that.
Can you be at another time then now ?
Is any technique needed to be here right now ?
No ? Feel it.
Is any effort needed to be here right now ?
No ? Feel it !
Here right now, this being here, does it depend on anything right now ?
Does it object to anything that is here ?
Feel it !
Can you make it go away right now ?
Feel it.
Can you add something to it ?
Can you break it in two ?
Feel it.
Stay with it.
Unchangeable, free, unbreakable, already perfect, borderless, fearless.

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:22 pm
by HermitLoon
:)

Peace

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:25 pm
by Onceler
Procrastinate mindfully.

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:51 pm
by kiki
Great post, Marcel - simple, obvious, and to the point; a very distilled teaching. Wonderful!

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:57 am
by jackh
Ananda wrote:Differentiate between yourself and the mind.
:lol:

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:23 am
by joe
None of this addresses the problem effectively.

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:45 am
by Sighclone
Joe -

Get a copy of ET's "Gateways to NOW" - it's a recently re-issued CD. Buy a copy of "True Meditation" by Adyashanti. Get a copy of "Radiant Mind" by Peter Fenner (full of exercises, not just meditation techniques -- fascinating), get a copy of "Wake Up Now" by Stephen Bodian. Study the exercises on Candice O'Denver's site greatfreedom.org.
How do you just begin mindfulness without a structure or guiding method?
What is wrong with a structure to get started on this stuff? Joe...it's ok to need some tricks at first to get used to stillness. Maybe even a mantra meditation technique -- Here is a comment, steeped in paradox which helped me understand the mind/ego/path situation:
One of the most delightful paradoxes is that at the end of the nondual path we realize that we haven't travelled any distance -- that no path has been traversed and that we haven't attained "anything." But we also realize that if we hadn't believed that there was a path and made the effort we have made, we wouldn't have arrived at the point we are at. Even though we realize that our struggle and commitment has been pointless, in the absence of this effort we would still be drifting in the illusion that there actually is somewhere to go and something to achieve. Without doing what we didn't need to do, we wouldn't realize that we didn't need to do it.
It's from Peter Fenner in "The Sacred Mirror," edited by Prendergast.


Here is a quick technique which was helpful for me: Sit in a quiet room and close your eyes. Breathe smoothly for a couple of breaths. Now decide to fully experience the immediate, precise absolutely current moment. Not the moment one ten-millionth of a second a go, but right absolutely NOW. Experience totally this instant, this serially appearing instant, and stay there.

Doesn't matter if it is only for a few seconds. Happens to be where you live...the real you.

Namaste, Andy

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:09 pm
by Marcel Franke
Hi Joe !

> None of this addresses the problem effectively.

Indeed.
Very, very good.
You are absolutely right.
And getting close.
None of this will do anything with the problem.
All this blah-blah.
It can not be done.
There will be no effect at all.
Not today, not ever.
For it is impossible.
Because it is not a problem.
How can you solve a non-problem ?

See ?

Thank you,
MF.

Re: procrastination getting in the way

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:47 pm
by nowhawk
Hi Joe,
joe wrote:How do you just begin mindfulness without a structure or guiding method?
Knowing moments of procrastinantion, here is whet help me.

1. Never fighting it. For it tires me and makes me procrastinate more. ;)
2. What I loke about Tolle, is that you can transform your "non-practice", your unconscious into conscious. Noticing that you put some practice away for later, is already AWARE NOTICINE, which is already a beginning of a practice.
(also, being aware of the reasons of why I procrastinate, gives me a good insight about what in first place I want to practice...)
3. Often, going through that passage, gives me back somme energy to schedule and commit to the action I want to do.

NH