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BARRY LONG

Post by bruce lee » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:15 pm

Anyone listen to barry long? i just find him an amazing teacher and find he speaks from everything like raisng kids, work, to relationships, right through to the origins of the universe , and life after death, and so on, if youve not heard of him look him up,, i believe eckhart tolle attended a few of his meetings a long time ago, ...an amazing teacher, who puts the truth in the simplest terms.

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Post by enigma » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:43 pm

HA! That's funny, since I seem to be having a rather serious communications issue with Mouse right now, who clearly follows Barry Long, and it naturally occurred to me that it's Barry's fault. :lol: Seriously, though, I have no idea, but I might get curious enough to find out.

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Post by bruce lee » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:07 am

yes have a look its worth it, with barry theres no belief, or doubt cos hes speaking from his experience and i always hear the truth crystal clear with barry, no eastern words just the truth simply put......

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Post by enigma » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:08 am

Okay, well, me, myself and I seem to have found the source of it's confusion. Thanks.
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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by Mouse » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:47 am

As you probably know Bruce I hear the truth of what he is saying.

Barry Long uses words very precisely which I find useful. He has precise definitions for Consciousness and Awareness stating they are not the same, so there we go again.

He is a very straight and practical teacher and has been said to be one of the great masters of our times.

Here he is teaching in the '89 a few years after Eckhart would have seen him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg7n-ZZePGQ this one's called Master of Your Mind and it just goes to show his crystal clarity.
I have been inspired by Barry Long's teaching and I write this so as to acknowledge my source of inspiration. It is a wonderful help, and it is a wonderful gift.

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by enigma » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:15 am

I don't have any particular issue with him. I'm glad you find him useful.

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by Mouse » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:47 am

enigma wrote:I don't have any particular issue with him. I'm glad you find him useful.
Who has inspired you Enigma?
I have been inspired by Barry Long's teaching and I write this so as to acknowledge my source of inspiration. It is a wonderful help, and it is a wonderful gift.

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by bruce lee » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:18 pm

thanks mouse for that barry clip,,barry makes good distinctions and leaves no room for misunderstanding, thats what i like,, he states the diffrence between earth and world, ego and self, love and sex, etc,,like on this site a greta many people use words like self, and ego, and i htink many times people just use them in the context weve been taught they mean, but barry puts straight what things mean and shows you in your own experience,,,,i like what barry says..something is either true in your experience or its not true..that is a big but very true statement,,we can all say whats true for maharshi, tolle, buddha , etc, but if its not true for us what does it matter? that is what makes barry a great teacher ,, i always go away knowing exactly what im doing and what he means,,, totally changed my life has barry long , so too has eckhart tolle whos also a great teacher ,,the only diffrence for me is that i found barry first , and ive always had a strong connection to his way of teaching.

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Post by kiki » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:03 am

Bruce, please make the effort to capitalize where appropriate and punctuate properly as per board requirements. As is, your above post is simply a mess.
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Post by rodriguez_88 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:26 am

enigma wrote:HA! That's funny, since I seem to be having a rather serious communications issue with Mouse right now, who clearly follows Barry Long, and it naturally occurred to me that it's Barry's fault. :lol: Seriously, though, I have no idea, but I might get curious enough to find out.
:lol:

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by Mouse » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:53 am

I apologise if my posts are sometimes somewhat convoluted, I often get an inspiration and I attempt to infuse my writing with that.

Here is a short piece called The End of Self-Enquiry by Barry Long. I enjoy the way he makes such sense of it all. I think he writes very well and doesn't waste a word. He was an Australian of course and they are pretty straight and blunt. I am ex-UK myself.

"Indulging in spiritual enquiry is a waste of time. But then the whole of existence, as we have to live it, is a waste of time – until we come to our senses.

The more we keep enquiring, the less we will discover of the truth. The truth is now; and now is what is. That is everything in sense, this moment, now, in the observer's own experience. It is the way of ignorance to look for something more.

While you're engaged in spiritual enquiry, you'll be distracted from what is and go into what has been provided by spiritual masters, the Buddhists and all the other religions. You’ll go into inner space and start to imagine what God is, what Jesus is, what Mohammed is, what Buddha was talking about. You’ll go into all sorts of ceremonies, mantras and the rest of it – all rubbish compared with the truth. The only truth is what is, as it is, now – the phenomena in front of you. All the rest takes you away from the truth. And then, inevitably, you have to suffer and know confusion and contradiction.

Your living life has been provided so that you can suffer enough and go through loss and all the temporary successes and failures, depressions and confusions; and the temporary moments in which you are in the state of mind to sense that there is a God or truth. Temporary – because to hold the truth as an uninterrupted state requires you to be absolutely and completely in your senses, now, every moment. You can't do that until you have lived and suffered sufficiently; so that eventually you get rid of your imagination about the truth and instead perceive its reality.

You would expect a spiritual master to say there is ‘only one truth and that is now’. But I tell you this: The only truth is to be now, in your senses; what you are seeing and hearing is the truth; and if you perceive anything in your inner space, it is not the truth.

Inner space is where you think, want, imagine, wish and dream; where you have spiritual realisations; where you realise God, truth and love. All that happens in inner space – demonstrably, in your own experience. But anything you are imagining, that you're building on as an opinion, a position, is not the truth. There is no truth in imagination. And there is no truth in reflection.

Inside of you is the clamour of your emotions and the clutter of your mind. Should you happen to eliminate a bit of the clutter and the clamour, then it is true that a reflection of the truth may shine through; and you will be exalted in that moment and think that you have realised God. But it's only a reflection of God. It's only a clearing of a little bit of the intellect, which is the reflection of God in existence. A reflection of God is like a reflection in the mirror. Is that you in the mirror? No, it's your reflection. So a reflection of God in the intellect is not God. . . . God is now, this moment, every moment.

The intellect is smeared with all the rubbish of belief and religion, and the hopes and untruths that masters have spread. You cannot find the truth until you have expunged all that from inside of you. You'll never find the state of absence, which is the state of truth, unless you're able to be now – with nothing arising inside.

Do I have to remind the Buddhists of what the Buddha said? – ‘I have nothing arising.’ That means: no opinions, no beliefs, no mantras, no wanting, no trying, no effort, no clamour, no clutter – as a way of life.

What can you do to eliminate the clamour and the clutter? You have to stop reflecting on your emotions, on your thoughts, on your memory. You have to stop thinking, wishing, dreaming while you’re awake. While I do that, I exist. I only exist in the past – as a reflection on my memory, my emotions, or what I know. When there is only perception, now, in the senses, I disappear. Then there is the state of absence – no person, no individual. Just what is.

This is a negation of everything – except doing. Nobody on earth can stop doing. The problem is only that I produce an ‘I’ to reflect on what I am doing. There is nothing arising. But I am still ‘doing’ . . . The bird is singing and there are the trees, the skies, the clouds, and whatever my senses are reporting in sound and sight; that is the only reality now.

I don't know how deep this reality is within the senses. It's one great something or other that I cannot name. Is that all it is? Nobody can say. Anything that's said about it is an interpretation. It is what it is now. That's the mystery; that's the secret."

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I find this line from the piece to be particularly significant:

"Temporary – because to hold the truth as an uninterrupted state requires you to be absolutely and completely in your senses, now, every moment."

And this:

"I only exist in the past – as a reflection on my memory, my emotions, or what I know. When there is only perception, now, in the senses, I disappear. Then there is the state of absence – no person, no individual. Just what is."

So "I" only exist in the past.
I have been inspired by Barry Long's teaching and I write this so as to acknowledge my source of inspiration. It is a wonderful help, and it is a wonderful gift.

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by enigma » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:14 am

What most folks call the ego, or the identification with the mind/body, is a belief, and therefore a set of thoughts stored in memory. Though basically true, to suggest that 'I' exist in the past may be confusing. You don't exist at all, there's only the idea of you.

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by Mouse » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:51 am

Why is it confusing? Everybody experiences their self as " – as a reflection on my memory, my emotions, or what I know." This, Barry Long states is living in the past.

That is clear to me and it is true in my experience. Come to the senses and all that "past" goes.
I have been inspired by Barry Long's teaching and I write this so as to acknowledge my source of inspiration. It is a wonderful help, and it is a wonderful gift.

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by enigma » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:04 am

Mouse wrote:Why is it confusing? Everybody experiences their self as " – as a reflection on my memory, my emotions, or what I know." This, Barry Long states is living in the past.

That is clear to me and it is true in my experience. Come to the senses and all that "past" goes.
Sure, what I said is to suggest that 'I' exist in the past may be confusing. You don't exist at all, there's only the idea of you.

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Re: BARRY LONG

Post by Mouse » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:11 am

Well now let's see, if I self reflect - on my memory(past), my emotions(past), or what I know(past), then self appears.

What you are pointing to is prior to this moment. You are pointing to the moment when I come out of the state of nonduality due to this idea that I exist, and I then identify with what appears in my inner space, the memory, emotions or what I know. The question at this precise point is- Does an entity now exist or does it not?

Does a ghost exist if you see one? Sure it does even though it may disappear next moment. To say I am that ghost is obviously an error. But you are not saying that, you are saying the ghost doesn't even exist.

So I see it is true that a false idea is the start of it. But further on, once I have identified with that idea that I exist and the psyche has created a ghostly entity I now identify with as my self.

So I reckon your statement that my self does not exist is even more confusing. It is everybody's experience.

Here is a better explanation:
barry long wrote:You have to stop thinking, wishing, dreaming while you’re awake. While I do that, I exist. I only exist in the past – as a reflection on my memory, my emotions, or what I know. When there is only perception, now, in the senses, I disappear. Then there is the state of absence – no person, no individual. Just what is.
How about that? It explains everything.
I have been inspired by Barry Long's teaching and I write this so as to acknowledge my source of inspiration. It is a wonderful help, and it is a wonderful gift.

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