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Non duality and science

Postby hanss » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:29 pm

"In today's rush we all think too much, seek too much, want too much and forget about the joy of just Being."
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Re: Non duality and science

Postby garuda » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:35 am

Thanks for this nice find, hanns. If you are interested in this area, William A. Tiller is another interesting researcher (among many others) who departs somewhat from the 'old science' that has failed to explain the intricate dance between subtle energies and consciousness.
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Re: Non duality and science

Postby hanss » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:28 pm

And thank you. Will have a look at Mr Tiller.

garuda wrote:.. the intricate dance between subtle energies and consciousness.


Nice :)
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Re: Non duality and science

Postby snowheight » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:45 pm

For me it was the study of math and physics which led to the resonance with Tolle's works.

If you take the trouble to understand certain topics in science then ET's reference in his first chapter to a "felt sense of oneness with being" strikes a chord ... "hmmm ... oneness? yeah I can understand that, but what does he mean to 'FEEL' it?"

Quantum Mechanics tells us that they only REAL thing in the equation isn't in the equation (unless you sign on to Dr. Evan Harris Walker's suggested modification to Schrodingers equation), it is the observer.

Thanks for re-posting this!
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Re: Non duality and science

Postby ashley72 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:53 am

Wow, thanks for this link... I find this fascinating stuff. I studied Physics at university level, I wasn't a gifted student... but rather struggled through 4 years of it, even had to repeat my 2-year!

I looked closely at the "Dialogue in Consciousness" and wow... it really made me question some of my concepts in a big way. Particular around time-space. Further reading took me to works by Julian Barbour (British physicist) who wrote the book... "The End of Time". Also other works by Cambridge idealist J. M. E. McTaggart called "The Unreality of Time".

And in one of his last letters, Einstein wrote "People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubborn, persistent illusion.
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Re: Non duality and science

Postby Sighclone » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:50 am

The Third Annual Science and Nonduality Conference will be in San Rafael, California in October. I went to the first one...many interesting presentations, available on CD and DVD here:

http://www.scienceandnonduality.com/

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Re: Non duality and science

Postby snowheight » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:53 am

Sighclone wrote:The Third Annual Science and Nonduality Conference will be in San Rafael, California in October. I went to the first one...many interesting presentations, available on CD and DVD here:

http://www.scienceandnonduality.com/


So this year the topic is that much maligned concept around here ... Time!

Ok, so I'll go on record right now with the following conjecture: Consciousness is essentially a lensing effect (the Self is a Lens), which focuses the possibilities of the immediate future onto a 3-dimensional focal plane of the Now based on the events of the past.

This idea has two "corollaries", that can be understood if one uses the analogy of geometric optics :

1) The further out in time one goes, the more "unfocused" future Now's are. Some possible events are highly likely depending on distance along the axis and the constraints of past events: while it is highly probable that all of my hair will be in my head a millisecond from now and Mt. Everest is very unlikely to be supplanted as the Earth's highest peak anytime within the next century, who will be the Republican nominee in 2012 is hardly a foregone conclusion and casino's constantly make money on the roll of dice.

2) Just as there are a multitude of possible futures signified by the diverging lines from the focal now, the converging lines from the past conform to many possible different ways in which this Now could have come into being. While we all may agree that Lincoln was assassinated by Booth during that play, think of the nearly infinite number of details of that scene that are inconsequential and lost to history -- perhaps some of us are here from a reality in which the actor playing the cousin wore red socks, and others from one where he wore blue.
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Re: Non duality and science

Postby Sighclone » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:37 am

From a nondual perspective, I think "nowness" is useful in that it seems that no thoughts can exist in the "Present Moment." That is a personal experience some observe. The Present Moment feels like it exists outside of the "flow" of time. Are the antennae by which we notice this the same ones by which Being identifies itself?

"The concept of change has no meaning with respect to a single moment in time." (Brian Greene) But one of the fundamental features of our observation of time is that it is a measure of change. (At least that is what those pictures of "me" taken 40 years ago seem to suggest!!)

"For we convinced physicists, the distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, however persistent." (Einstein)

And snowheight's mention of the "Many Worlds" theory is amusing and equally unsettling... :)

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Re: Non duality and science

Postby ashley72 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:52 pm

snowheight wrote:
So this year the topic is that much maligned concept around here ... Time!

Ok, so I'll go on record right now with the following conjecture: Consciousness is essentially a lensing effect (the Self is a Lens), which focuses the possibilities of the immediate future onto a 3-dimensional focal plane of the Now based on the events of the past.


Snowheight,

You might find this post interesting. Its based on the Holographic Universe and brain theory.... It relates well to your own concept here, but using a holographic model.

http://eckhart-tolle-forum.inner-growth.info/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8880
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