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We are wiser than we know

Postby azurewalking » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:26 pm

-RWE

Hello, Everyone.

I am a long-time reader, first time commenter of this forum. I'm not sure why it wasn't until now that I made a point of "joining in" on the conversation, though, I suppose it doesn't really matter. I'm writing now.

I came upon A New Earth several years ago while preparing to enter graduate school. Incidentally, a large bulk of my studies translated to this time in my life, which marked the beginning of an inner paradigm shift. My Master's thesis examined the writings of Ralph Waldo Emerson. (Emerson, I later discovered, has been long dear to Eckhart.) As a broad stroke definition, Emerson's writings advocate Self-awareness and serve as a panacea for the fictitious form of self-identity we construct, particularly from external (secondary) influences. Shortly after finishing ANE, I read several of Tolle's other books in succession. At the time, I resonated with much of what Tolle offers in these writings. However, it was mostly (though not entirely) a mind-constructed resonance, so there was dissonance.

Recently, I happened upon The Power of Now once again, and, after all these years, came back to Tolle with "new eyes." I see with greater clarity now that, despite Eckhart cautioning us, my mind was attempting to be the predominant processor of the heart of his teachings, which of course, point to Being. Now, my experience relative to his teachings exists on an entirely different level.

It is an immense pleasure to be a part of this community. I am grateful it exists as a platform for us to connect in the unfolding.

Enjoy this beautiful day.

Yours, etc.,
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby Webwanderer » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:00 am

Welcome to the forum azurewalking.

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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby kiki » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:38 am

Glad to have you make the move from lurker to participant. I get the feeling that you and one of our fine moderators, Sighclone, will get along splendidly.

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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby runstrails » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:01 pm

Welcome, azure. Hope to hear more from you soon.
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby azurewalking » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:55 pm

Thank you for the welcomes. Participating, no doubt, has trumped lurking. :wink:
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby kiki » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:08 pm

Participating, no doubt, has trumped lurking.


Good for you!
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby Webwanderer » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:40 am

kiki wrote:
Participating, no doubt, has trumped lurking.


Good for you!

And good for all of us. :D

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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby Sighclone » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:18 am

Hello azurewalking, and welcome! My Master's thesis was on Thoreau, and I studied with Bob Richardson who wrote those three wonderful biographies of HDT, RWE and William James. You can flip through my early posts to find out how I got here, but it was a big kensho, followed by this continuing wonderment and integration. Do you teach, or what did you do with your academic training?

Your voice will be welcome here. Even though a wave is indeed a wave, and separate from the next wave, we all tend to speak with one voice after a while.... :D

Thank you for your fine comments in other threads, too!

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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby azurewalking » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:24 pm

Love the post, Andy, and thank you! Always a pleasure to meet someone who reveres the American Transcendentalists. What a wonderful opportunity to have studied with Richardson, and I look forward to thumbing through your earlier posts. I myself studied with Steven Fink and wrapped up my Master's before heading west to work with the Navajo and Ute. I had a background in nonprofit development, and right after completing my thesis, out of the blue, an opportunity presented itself to project lead the creation and installation of a healing garden for them in Utah. So much of what I had studied in Emerson had practical application, so I was thrilled to incorporate my research into creating an environment that could serve these individuals in a nature-based, spiritually healing way. Since then I've gotten married and started a family, so I've taken a hiatus, though who knows what the future holds. I know the research changed my life and will always find inspiration, and a type of camaraderie, in their writings.
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby smiileyjen101 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:32 am

Wow!!
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby anna coffer » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:54 pm

Yes and no.

The universe is also a part of our 'being ness.'

If it knew ahead of time of its clashes with other
solar movements, (galaxies hitting the other, perhaps too as
stars implode when they impact) all due to its cellular mode meaning an end
to it - could it be true its non wisdom (being bigger in its being (us, too)
proof that its non-wisdom is our truth today?

Math and math less are both you.

The infinite formless math of the universe and its beauty
in action is us yet me on occasion in One.

We are One with all there is as Tolle mentioned and boy
is he right!

Since math is infinite (yet eternal is bigger and wiser than infinite)
as the last math system is procured as infinite we are also
its essence that goes beyond any formless creation, too.
Any disclosure from the Unknown in essence is new.
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby azurewalking » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:40 pm

Thanks, Anna. I'll provide the extended excerpt with Emerson's surrounding context.

"We are wiser than we know. If we will not interfere with our thought, but will act entirely, or see how the thing stands in God, we know the particular thing, and every thing, and every man."

This is an excerpt from his essay titled, The Over-Soul. In the essay, Emerson writes on the human soul, which is an inextricable part of God. He discusses, as does Eckhart's teachings, that the ego (through identification with thought) is what can prevent one's consciousness from realizing itself. During Emerson's time, the majority of people did not subscribe to the belief that one could have an unmediated connection with the divine. This belief led people into complete denial of one's Being, and Emerson challenged this doctrine by writing on the relationship between the human soul and the ego (thus, double-consciousness, so one must be false). More broadly, his writings point to three distinct aspects: the individual's journey of inwardness, realizing the connectedness on a soul level with the Over-Soul (or, the collective, infinite Consciousness), and upon realizing the aforementioned, one is guided to right action.

Emerson states that consciousness, or the human soul, then, realizes itself (and only in the present moment). Though there's a bit of a nuance in how he uses the word "know."
This is how we are wiser than we know.

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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby anna coffer » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:29 pm

And beautifully written I might add.

We are math & math less.

The forum is math as too the planet & every society
as we have come to form based thought.

Every spiritual teacher has a premise, love.

Each teacher balances the next.

Society at tyro & advance learning stages
makes this so.

We awaken Now.

Not by Eckhart Tolle. Impossible, for a greater force
who appointed all teachers on what is true is present.

The One untouched by mind thinking with its
illusion.

Say patience was missing in our progress to
become enlightened, as omnipotent too it's
stead would mental mind who?

Thought appeals to some for the outcome pleases
it, in that state inferior exist, likewise ownership
plus an arrogance of naming a being calling it
As a suppose 'thing'.

Heaven ( stars, etc) are not things.
The same mistake is made of the planet,
not a thing likewise.

As Tolle mentioned inanimate objects as being
alive to the core than for enlightenment to
truly permit itself whole would also be commence
in time & appointed season which weary's most
the species (take a look around, please).

So whatever is killed, deadened through our thought
based endeavor is life on no bounds for another as
Tolle is experiencing. How many Tolle's are needed
to NOW teach consciousness for its
Presence presenting itself - love as a need.

I like Byron Kate. I met her in Ojai. She world travels
to reduce pain in the pain body. I just started a world
trek of my own to assist with peace.

Many many many people I have spoken with
are still i the 'I want more' mode. (things, etc,)

Little do I need to mention our species isn't enlightened
yet. Forethought and patience with our species
is truly a sacred stance likewise a blessing through it, true?
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby anna coffer » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:09 pm

Every thought incapsulates 'Being' of course
for we are all if it. So thought in infinite
truly exist.

Once in never a being comes into existence
to peace our planet goes full force of its dynamic in energy
and soothes a moment in two mode.

"Why peace? Why not conscious us first?"
a mind thought.

Well, that's a baby carrying a mother. Couldn't
happpen. Such is life.

One is set up to be wise and the other
will folly through its guidance.

The process is multifaceted and never one
here. Alas! Truth be us. Two is our 'no'.
Never trust it. 'One' is truth incarnate.

Concur with a stance of 'no' yet 'yes'.

For to be wise without its teacher
for us to learn is the baby birthing a parent
to learn through.
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Re: We are wiser than we know

Postby anna coffer » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:23 pm

Being wiser than we know will not
work, for it too is folly.

Being such wisdom is math less, the quote
surmises a quip in knowing truth
encompasses lateral methods such
as math (form) whereby the math less picks up
truth likewise (formless) making wisdom,
truth and folly One.

Once upon a time 'wisdom' likewise love
was needed in humanity yet due
to its math less freewill was blessed
in its stead (..and going in full force, mind you)

So love ran amuck into some love-less area,
say non-peace with its weapons of mass
destruction. (etcs)

(Power struggle ensues...yahdy, yahdy)

SO...

Now, let's recant love's wisdom for
an enemy is not wise when we are
of divine forgiveness.

Wisdom makes a friend of wisdom, true?

For what brute would obliterate a nation
or it's people and send them to God
(in peace, though its math being of
form and thought based as our society
the planet over is presenting in 2 mode
and not One mode)

Tolle did mention wisely as any Master
Teacher has presented to mankind to
have an enemy not.

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