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Hello + path to Eckhart

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:47 pm
by peaceINpractice
Hello,

I wanted to share my Eckhart story. Thanks for reading.

When I first started listening to Eckhart (PoN), it was “too spiritual” for a skeptic’s ego/mind – I thought he said some crazy sh_t! So, I switched to The Science of Mindfulness - 24 lectures from Professor Ronald D. Siegel. I listened to it a lot over the course of a year. -- I had some previous experience with relaxation tapes my doctor gave me shortly before starting college, over twenty years ago. – Listening to the lectures convinced me to start meditating. I didn’t really like breath mediation and found it hard to do 20min. Then I had a couple of mind – realizations which reminded me of Eckhart’s book. I went back to his book and found a fair amount of overlap with the lectures. Still a little too spiritual, but I added a new tool from listening again - mind/body awareness. I Then learned more about body scan and started listening to a couple of Eckhart retreats via audible. I had a couple more realizations and finally learned to trust Eckhart’s teachings. I still thought he said crazy sh_t, but I decided I wanted to know and understand all of his teachings. So, I’ve focused on his teachings for the last year. I now have open eye practices and experience “body-bliss” regularly. However, I feel like I’ve gone through all of this in vacuum. About a year ago, I went to a local Buddhist group in the area and talked to the teacher after, and he said, Eckhart’s not a Buddhist and told me to keep practicing. I looked, periodically, online for local Eckhart groups but didn’t find any. I recently asked a yoga teacher (class was offered at work, I’m a total beginner) if she knew of people that practiced mind body awareness. She mentioned yoga Nidra. It turns out, there’s a lot of overlap with Eckhart’s teachings. I’ve talked to a couple of people that do Nidra (the Nidra class was small) and they’ve had similar experiences in the body and mind. I find I’m drawn to this group because I can openly share my experiences and learn about theirs. The skeptic in me doesn’t want to hear that much about the religious/spirituals parts of their practices, but it seems it’s the closest thing I have to a group practice or to discuss practices in person. Sorry if that sounds whiny, I think the isolation has gotten to me. The teacher recommended the book, Play of Consciousness, which should arrive on Monday.

Last thing. I’m a little surprised that many Buddhist practitioners aren’t very knowledgeable about how great mind/body awareness practices are – to me it’s way easier than breath focused meditation and leads to many open eye practices! The ones that seem to know, also do yoga. Does anyone know why there is this big disconnect? Feel free to provide a link or copy paste. Thanks for having this site for: the isolated Eckhart audible “disciples”.
peace in practice

Re: Hello + path to Eckhart

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:52 pm
by dijmart
Hi PIP,

Welcome to the forum!

Re: Hello + path to Eckhart

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 12:21 pm
by Rob X
Hello pip, welcome to the forum.

I first read PON about sixteen years ago. At the time I was part of a Buddhist group and a hardcore meditator. I found it complimentary to my practice - though I didn’t really discuss it with anyone in the group apart from recommending it to a couple of friends. Essentially the approaches of Buddhism and ET are not really that dissimilar. When stripped of doctrine, cultural baggage and trappings they both emphasise the same vital principle - that of being present with life as it is.

Re: Hello + path to Eckhart

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 4:11 pm
by rachMiel
Rob X wrote:When stripped of doctrine, cultural baggage and trappings they both emphasise the same vital principle - that of being present with life as it is.

Yes!

I have the great good fortune of having a guide-teacher who sees the fundamental core sameness behind the apparent dramatic differences of Buddhism, Dzogchen, Zen, Advaita, Direct Path, etc. All these paths eventually lead to the same (non-)place.

Re: Hello + path to Eckhart

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:15 pm
by steve Davidson
If it is not too personal, do you mind revealing who your guide-teacher is rachMiel. And what path or lineage they teach from.

Re: Hello + path to Eckhart

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:20 pm
by peaceINpractice
Thanks.

Is your teacher very spiritual?

Also, if I may ask - who here feels they are a significantly better spouse/partner? Sometimes I'm better but not most. I also, have less interest in some types of ambition which my spouse only kind of understands.

Re: Hello + path to Eckhart

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:08 am
by rachMiel
steve Davidson wrote:If it is not too personal, do you mind revealing who your guide-teacher is rachMiel. And what path or lineage they teach from.

Path: awareness (rigpa) based, mostly Dzogchen, but open to pretty much anything that works for the student.

He's a bit of a hermit, so out of respect for his privacy I'll stop there. :-)