HI Zen girl - hey... it was interesting to meI see now that I really was just wanting to say "Hi, Jen," but rather than doing that I selected to try to say something interesting but it really was not that interesting.
Zen girl, that's not 'judging' anything or anyone but you (and btw, go easy on my zen-girl-friend )It was just a, "The book didn't do it for me" type of comment. And an "I don't like scales" report. That is NOT really a critique of the book - it is just a judgment.
More and more the message is: DO NOT JUDGE. DO NOT TRY TO BE SMART.
- the stuff about the book, that's sharing your perspective and there is no degree of 'smart' that brackets what we find interesting. I love that you wanted to say hi to me - I love that you did say hi. I love that you shared your perspective and shared that you'd read the book and I'm grateful that you did.
For instance I had no idea.... and didn't I sit here shaking my head .... how did I not notice 'this' amid all the googling I did...
so I google his name and nde ... and what a different 'story' unfolds - you are right!!As I recall, btw, the opening story was a nde story - very beautifully told and with LIGHTENING effects!
You always were zen girl, you always were.
So I also found this little bio excerpt ---
hahaha ...maybe one day I'll 'relearn worldly manners' tooIn 1979 Hawkins gave up his large practice for a seven-year-period of a frugal life in Arizona as a hermit. After 12 years of spiritual study and meditation, he relearned worldly manners again to become an “ordinary man.”
One of his quotes intrigues me... and may be why many haven't heard of him ---Susan Humphrey, later his second wife, entered his life in 1991, being the one, who strongly insisted that he publish his findings. Until 1995 he had remained publicly silent about his extraordinary spiritual states such as his first memory, a sudden awareness of existence, at the age of 3, his NDE as a youngster, sensing the “excruciating immensity of the suffering of mankind” at 16, and his claimed enlightenment at 38 years, which he believes terminated his personhood, followed by his unity experience in 1977 in Rothman’s Restaurant in Long Island.
He also says an interesting thing about his experience in the snow not being a 'near death experience' --- and I sooooo 'get' this ----- because even as he was deciding in compassion for his Dad, to re-enliven his body, there is no death - towards the end of this first part of this radio interview I'll link them here“The true [spiritual] teachers can be seen to have no interest in fame or in having followers, prestige or trappings [...] The teachings and not the teacher are what is important. Inasmuch as the teachings do not come from the personage of the teacher at all, it does not make sense to idolize or worship the personage. The information is transmitted as a
gift because it was received as such.” The Eye of the I, p. 37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7xvX_RblKA part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBu9DbPQr30 part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkKGtMcgfRI part 3
...interesting perspectives and now I know (having never tried it) what 'ecstasy' the drug is like - it's so cute that she gets 'mixed up' whether that's what he's talking about. This last one ---- it's a 'gem' a true gem. I feel like he's so 'familiar'.... (and I love that she has to say to him -- stay focussed now - walk us through this, while he's saying it's really simple )
simple kindness... it is simple.
So zen girl --- thank you, sincerely and humbly for helping me to look further at this man and his wisdoms.
I so understand how kindnesses and love brings tears to his eyes - tears are words the heart cannot express, and I have tears - in gratitude & love. So glad to see you back here