Using a thorn to remove a thorn

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Using a thorn to remove a thorn

Postby Relinquish85 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:43 am

Hi everybody. :)

This being my first post on this forum, I just wanted to initially lay all my cards on the table (so to speak) by sharing with you all the intellectual formulation I have made of what I feel are some insights into the fundamental nature of Reality and our true place within it. I have arrived at this formulation through as deep contemplation as I could muster on the subject over the past few years, including alot of reading of books like 'The Power of Now', watching many hours of youtube clips, and an almost unceasing meditative exploration of my simple experience of existing. I feel this thread will help the posters I converse with here to see where I am coming from with the most of things I will be saying in our discussions.

Please feel free to point out any holes you may see in my reasoning, as this will provide an opportunity for us to go even deeper than I have gone in this post. :)


In truth, any given 'particular thing' (for example, a tree) can ONLY exist if the right conditions are present. These conditions are 'not the tree', and are necessarily comprised of 'other things', ALL of which can ONLY exist if the right conditions are present. These conditions are 'not those other things', and are necessarily comprised of 'other other things', ALL of which can ONLY exist if the right conditions are present....and so on, ad infinitum.

Therefore, 'the tree' could not possibly appear in exactly the way that it is without the ENTIRETY of 'not the tree' (which is, in this context, most accurately defined as the all-inclusive and as such fundamentally singular and ultimately boundless presence that lies beyond 'the tree') appearing in exactly the way that it is.

In this way, 'the tree' and 'not the tree' are shown to be an absolutely inseparable 'pair' of opposites, which (like ALL such pairs) is inextricably indicative of the 'deeper' (and MORE ACTUAL) Reality that is itself fundamentally seamless and as such completely devoid of BOTH. Therefore, it isn't actually true that there exists EITHER 'the tree' OR 'not the tree', that are intrinsically different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they SEEM to be. EXACTLY the same is true of ALL so-called 'particular things', including 'Me' and 'Not Me' (and 'You' and 'Not You').

In truth, both of these 'two' are absolutely equal. That is, equally non-existent. NEITHER are fundamentally Here.

Yet, in some way or other, 'experiencing' IS undeniably taking place....


Logically, the fundamental phenomenon that is 'Change' can have no true beginning or ending, and as such, nothing lasts forever. In other words, 'Nothing' ALWAYS exists.

Given this fact, in truth, 'Something' NEVER exists (neither Here and Now in THIS moment, nor in ANY conceivable 'other moment').

The apparently coherent, ever-flowing stream of 'Change' is infact most accurately defined as the deterministic 'evaporation' of the 'absolute randomness' that ever-periodically emanates naturally from this 'Nothing' that always exists.

In this way, Reality itself fundamentally equals 'ZERO', and can therefore have no real ultimate 'edge', in any direction at all, in expanse or duration.

Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' inextricably equals 'ONE'.

Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the eternal infinity that is 'ONE', all the while remaining (due to its fundamentally attributeless nature) inherently unrequiring of (and thus, completely devoid of) any capacity for the formation of any kind of 'knowledge' of 'itself', or of 'anything else'.

This is the stateless state of 'pure awareness'. It simply 'is', without beginning, ending or edge, always already perfect and complete, and infinitely sufficient unto itself. As such, it remains forever in an unfathomable state of unthreatenable bliss.

This, alone, is 'What Actually 'IS'', 'Here' and 'Now'.

As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' and 'the seen'. The seen is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute randomness' (i.e. finite, ever-changing and moving form). The seer is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order' (i.e. infinite, ever-changeless and still emptiness).

'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can;

'THIS' way.

In other words, the so-called 'big bang' (which is one in an infinite series of such bangs) can be described as an instantaneous event of pure randomness (i.e. the seen) that happens in the infinite field of changeless and orderly emptiness (i.e. the seer). When this occurs, the passive 'gaze' of the field causes the event to coherently 'evaporate', unresistingly, via the orderly path of least resistance until it has completely dissolved, and then another 'bang' happens, and so on forever. The evaporation itself (which can ONLY happen perfectly) is the seemingly causal and sequential 'life' of the universe, along with all of its apparently coherent hierarchical structure and physical 'laws'.

Being an evaporation, it doesn't really have any actual 'parts', that are fundamentally different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they seem to be.

Therefore, every'thing', every'one', and every 'event' EVER is actually an 'apparent part' of the forever fundamentally seamless and effortless unfurling of this one choiceless effect, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one causeless, unencompassed, self-experiencing presence that is 'ZERO'.

Amongst the myriad finite and temporary undulations that arise and dissolve within this illusory evaporation, there arise certain undulations of such extreme physical complexity that they have the choiceless and effortless capacity to 'reflect' the timeless gaze of the infinite emptiness back upon itself from their own particular positions, as well as upon all surrounding undulations within a certain coherent distance from themselves.

This makes it seem as if there is a uniquely isolated, finite and temporary consciousness functioning within each one of them, which in turn gives rise to the illusion that they are the autonomous originators of their own particular movements. As such, the fundamentally seamless perfection of the universe's unfurling (and the infinite completeness that is it's true, eternal nature) is temporarily veiled.

Yet, ultimately, 'Here' and 'Now', without another, forever and ever;



(((((((((('THIS'-EXPERIENCING-'THIS'))))))))))



Thanks for taking the time to read this guys. :)
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Re: Using a thorn to remove a thorn

Postby smiileyjen101 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:52 pm

Welcome Relinquish - that's one heck of an introduction :D

I can see the effect of the perspective from which you are coming from, I'm curious ... how did you find yourself at that point in order to see the equilibrium and the elements of it in constant change?

In this way, 'the tree' and 'not the tree' are shown to be an absolutely inseparable 'pair' of opposites, which (like ALL such pairs) is inextricably indicative of the 'deeper' (and MORE ACTUAL) Reality that is itself fundamentally seamless and as such completely devoid of BOTH. Therefore, it isn't actually true that there exists EITHER 'the tree' OR 'not the tree', that are intrinsically different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they SEEM to be. EXACTLY the same is true of ALL so-called 'particular things', including 'Me' and 'Not Me' (and 'You' and 'Not You').
In truth, both of these 'two' are absolutely equal. That is, equally non-existent. NEITHER are fundamentally Here.

I'm not sure about this bit ^ why when you've recognised the constant equilibrium, do you then suggest that it (the all) and its parts, do not exist?

Maybe the clue is in your use of 'fundamentally' - what does this mean to you?

What do you think of the notion that Existence and non-existence are also " an absolutely inseparable 'pair' of opposites" that create an appearance of separation where there is no absolute separation, only relative and apparent separation.

I do really like your thinking because it recognises equilibrium in the totality, I'm just curious about the 'non-existent' bit, and that may be the word use - words are so inadequate at times :wink:

Welcome again I look forward to more of your posts.
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