Is there anything collective about enlightenment

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Is there anything collective about enlightenment

Post by jtightlips21 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:20 am

It seems like many think of enlightenment is something the individual achieves. But this seems to create a new form of duality where people can be divided into the conscious and the unconscious. Yet this seems to be a common idea in the east and west. Like the idea of the Bodhisattva's declining Nirvana to help others. In Christian theology, there is a popular belief that there was a collective fall from paradise, and a collective sacrifice(Jesus) and many in the Universalist tradition believe that Salvation can only be realized if all are saved.

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Re: Is there anything collective about enlightenment

Post by Louis More » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:23 am

But this seems to create a new form of duality where people can be divided into the conscious and the unconscious.
The only division is when you put/think things this way.
It is impossible to define enlightening in words, but it is inherently to this the knowledge that there is no division between anyone or anything.

It seems to have this division because we have to use a way to communicate, to feel which way we are draw. We say eckhart is awake and someone else is not so you know who you will read to gain more knowledge to find your own path, not eckhart's path.

But anyone who is in a state of awareness will not think in this division.

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