Consciousness - the divine game

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Consciousness - the divine game

Post by nirvedh » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:23 pm

Hi all,
Eckhart talks about Consciousness taking form from the Unmanifested. He describes this as a divine game or something that the human mind is unable to understand. This concept is a little unclear to me. Does anyone have an idea of why Consciousness wishes to take form? Has Eckhart explained this? What can be the reason for creation of form if the formless dimension is perfect and limitless in every way?
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Post by Mystic » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:18 am

nirvedh wrote:Hi all,
Eckhart talks about Consciousness taking form from the Unmanifested. He describes this as a divine game or something that the human mind is unable to understand. This concept is a little unclear to me. Does anyone have an idea of why Consciousness wishes to take form? Has Eckhart explained this? What can be the reason for creation of form if the formless dimension is perfect and limitless in every way?
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The formless basis of reality is the infinite potential from which all forms are manifested and then eventually return back to formlessness.

I believe consciousness entails the ability to make a choice. The basis of all consciousness can be called proto-consciousness or awareness which might better be elaborated as "aware-ing" which is formless and perfect stillness.

The aware-ing is also what Eckhart Tolle calls the NOW

Consciousness emerges as perspectives from perfect stillness of the awareing

Consciousness manifests as form, as different thought forms

Thoughts are really modes of thought and the more superficial language thoughts are what Eckhart Tolle says is the voice in the head

Consciousness is a logical and natural consequence of awareness and then consciousness forms the first question as a mode of thought

Question and answer are linked and inseparable just like cause and effect which forms a duality

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Re: Consciousness - the divine game

Post by eputkonen » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:02 pm

The human mind can understand the divine game...if it could not, there is no point in asking the question.
Why do children play games? Why do you play games?
Just for the fun of it.

Consciousness wishes to take form to experience. The desire to experience is the reason for creation.
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Post by Webwanderer » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:33 am

nirvedh wrote:Does anyone have an idea of why Consciousness wishes to take form? Has Eckhart explained this? What can be the reason for creation of form if the formless dimension is perfect and limitless in every way?
Form is a way for consciousness to explore the infinite possibilities of being experientially. Imagine what chocolate ice cream tastes like. Now go have a spoon full. Isn't there a wonderful difference in the imaginary vs the physical experience? And while the formless dimension may be limitless, a valuable element in understanding is in the exploration in detail.

Actual experience, and the understanding that comes from that directness, is a key component in the expansion and evolution of each unique perspective of that Infinite Consciousness. It is you and I, in our greater beingness, that are those unique perspectives. We are unique in perspective, yet we are one in Consciousness.

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Re: Consciousness - the divine game

Post by Mystic » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:53 am

eputkonen wrote:
Consciousness wishes to take form to experience. The desire to experience is the reason for creation.
I have seen several postings from different people that mention this idea that possibly could be an oversimplification.

Wishing and desire are also attributes of what is referred to as the ego.

What is consciousness? We must go to the root. I think elementary consciousness is simply the ability to make a binary choice, "yes or no", or in computer-speak 1 or 0.

Consciousness can evolve and become more complex in the span of time.

Speaking to the Science Channel’s Through the Wormhole documentary, Dr. Stuart Hameroff said:

“Let’s say the heart stops beating, the blood stops flowing; the micro-tubules lose their quantum state. The quantum information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can’t be killed, and it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at large. If the patient is resuscitated, revived, this quantum information can go back into the microtubules, and the patient says ‘I had a near-death experience.’ If they’re not revived, and the patient dies, it’s possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul.”

This information evolves and becomes more complex and these "souls" can be reintegrated back into new life-forms to further evolve conscious experience and information.

Elementary consciousness does not have an ego, but the ego becomes an eventuality of conscious experiences through evolution in different life forms.

So the ego is part of the evolution of consciousness and then the ego is transcended as this evolution of consciousness continues... Enlightenment...

Added in edit,.. closer ...and closer to a correct theory of quantum brain...

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... in/506768/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntwHETz84Cw


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Post by Sighclone » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:05 am

Thanks for this, Mystic, esp. the articles on quantum activities in the brain.

Andy
A person is not a thing or a process, but an opening through which the universe manifests. - Martin Heidegger
There is not past, no future; everything flows in an eternal present. - James Joyce

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