Why are we doing this?

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Why are we doing this?

Post by Admiral Akmir » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:49 am

Why did I read ET's book? Why do I try to follow the teachings? What is the purpose of it? What is supposed to happen? I ask myself what I hope to get out of this, and I can't come up with an answer. It bothers me that I feel compelled to pursue these kinds of teachings, but have no idea why. The only obvious explanation is that I'm not comfortable with my own self image, and the idea that it's not real feels better than the alternative. The posts on this forum seem to indicate the same of others, as do the talks that ET and other teachers give. Everyone wants to know how to be free of suffering - they want something other than what they currently have.

Is that all this is about? It feels like it falls short of being a satisfactory answer, but I can't think of anything else.

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Re: Why are we doing this?

Post by Sighclone » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:37 pm

AA -
Another author, Amoda Maa has written a very different sort of book, "Embodied Enlightenment," that helps to answer this question...readable but 'thought-provoking' - highly recommended.

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Re: Why are we doing this?

Post by Onceler » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:56 am

Great questions. I had the same questions and gave it up, stopped the search. Threw the books away. Quit the forums and the videos. I’ve been much happier since. Maybe there’s nothing to change but the search? I found that when I stopped stalking the answers they started to come around like inquisitive forest animals. Your life is your life is your life. Live it.
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Re: Why are we doing this?

Post by turiya » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:46 am

Onceler wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:56 am
I found that when I stopped stalking the answers they started to come around like inquisitive forest animals.
I enjoyed the mental image your sentence just gave me. :D
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Re: Why are we doing this?

Post by ThatAwareness » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:04 am

We are drawn to these things because it gets us closer to the truth of who we really are. And in that truth lies the end of suffering and a more beautiful living experience.

If you are not satisfied with identifying with your self-image, then find the absolute truth to this question: "Who am I?"

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Re: Why are we doing this?

Post by randomguy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:44 pm

Wanting something other than what is in hand appears to be the de facto human standard. What Tolle is pointing to is the opposite. He speaks to attention to what is right now, an invitation to notice the present.

Why do that? Isn't the present more interesting than a bunch of thoughts that disagree with the totality of being? Those thought have a sour core. What is already here has a sweet joy at the center of being.
Do the yellow-rose petals
tremble and fall
at the rapid's roar?
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Re: Why are we doing this?

Post by PureLand » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:25 pm

I wrote this answer for another topic, but I think it would better to post it here with some modifying.

The egotistical life for almost every person is "normal" in this world. But being "normal" doesn't mean that it is right, beneficial or sane way to live. Like Eckhart said, the world is kind of a mental hospital that almost none of the people are aware of their madness. In some places of the world the insanity is much intense than other places of the world. That's why westerners and some other communities in the world must feel gratitude for their relatively better environments than others. But still the insanity is everywhere in the world. The only place that people's unconsciousness is not encouraged and supported is spirituality. In almost every area in the world, people's craziness is accepted as normal, beneficial and ego and insanity is even encouraged in the most areas of the world. But in spirituality, the direction is complete opposite.

True spirituality is practised by 0.1% of the total population of humanity. So it is certainly not "normal" for this world, but it is the only sane way to live. The 0.1% of the total population of the humanity recognises the insanity of humanity and the suffering aspect of that insanity and lives in such a way that lead them to become free from this collective insanity.

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Re: Why are we doing this?

Post by Christa-303 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:24 pm

Admiral Akmir wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:49 am
Why did I read ET's book? Why do I try to follow the teachings? What is the purpose of it? What is supposed to happen? I ask myself what I hope to get out of this, and I can't come up with an answer. It bothers me that I feel compelled to pursue these kinds of teachings, but have no idea why. The only obvious explanation is that I'm not comfortable with my own self image, and the idea that it's not real feels better than the alternative. The posts on this forum seem to indicate the same of others, as do the talks that ET and other teachers give. Everyone wants to know how to be free of suffering - they want something other than what they currently have.

Is that all this is about? It feels like it falls short of being a satisfactory answer, but I can't think of anything else.
Just two things that come up with me.... What's wrong with wanting to be free of suffering...?

And: who or what is it that is asking the question 'why are we doing this'?

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