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When Did You First Become Aware That You Are Not Your Mind?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:13 am
by fifi
hi, since im new here, (just found this forum after a nasty episode with the pain body)id like to ask you how you first realized that you are not your mind and how you reacted.
i never forgot the day it happened for me. it was on a sunny day, about 12 years ago, walking down the street, as you do, having a nice conversation in my head about what im going to do when i home.
voice one pipes up with something and voice two creeps in and negotiates a deal. then, all of a sudden, i started laughing to myself about why i had two voices, and if anyone else had them(i was never into any psychological or spirituall stuff back then)and wondered if anyone ever gave it a thought as to whats its all about.
well i never had a computer then, nor did i do any reading about this kind of stuff or NLP. so i never got to find out. my then boyfriend just laughed when i asked him, so it was forgotten, yet i accepted it but didnt take the content of my mind that seriously from that day on.
years later i was introduced to tolles work by a spiritual teacher and automatically thought hell mr tolle has got it spot on. and i resonated well with the bit where he laughed to himself in the mirror in the bathroom when he finally thought about insane thinking!!

i look forward to reading your experiences,

love peace and joy
fifi.

When Did You First Become Aware That You Are Not Your Mind?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:36 am
by NoordZee
Welcome fifi to this forum.
Unfortunately, I cannot share a story with you in which I became aware that I am not my mind. I can tell you though that increasingly, I understand that we identify with our minds and thus go wrong in our thinking. I have just finished watching a number of videos of Father Anthonio de Mello. See
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=anthony+de+mello Like ET, he makes it so clear that the root of all sorrow is attachment/possessiveness. Happiness is a state of non-attachment. Maturity is when you no longer blame anyone or anything for how you feel. When you are upset about something, know that neither something or someone else causes this upset. Neither are you the cause for this upset. It is your mental programming that triggers the upset. This is what Anthonio speaks about. Eckhart expouses the same message but in his way.

Although I personally make progress in relation to the understanding of Eckhart's teachings, I have a little way to go before I can say that I am fully consciously aware that I am not my mind.

Good luck to you

when did you find out you are not your mind?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:24 pm
by fifi
Thanks NoordZee, unfortunately I cannot hear the link properly as my sound is down on my laptop :( (Having a few problems today!)

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:33 pm
by seeker
Hi fifi:

I can tell you a little story about this because I remember it vividly.

One year ago I began a six month course to learn how to meditate. It turned out to be the real thing. About one month into the course I was engaged in a walking meditation trying to focus my mind and suddenly I saw that my whole life up to that point was a very long story. Everything I did and thought was simply a way of adding to that story or confirming certain parts of that story; and I knew that the story was not me. It was just a story.

Later, when my mind calmed further and we were about three months into the course we were told that at the beginning of a sitting meditation we should ask "Who is the consciousness?". As I asked this I realized again with even more clarity that there was a mind thinking and another being concentrating.

Need I say more. It's been one of the most amazing things I've ever learned. Shortly thereafter I learned by chance about some guy named Eckhart Tolle (with a name like that, I thought, I'd become a spiritual teacher too) and a book called Power of Now. I read it and my life has never been the same.

That's what happened to me. Hope it's as good for you as it was for me!

Welcome to the forum

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:45 pm
by D'ray
After I read ET ofcourse :P

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:31 pm
by fifi
seeker wrote:Hi fifi:

I can tell you a little story about this because I remember it vividly.

One year ago I began a six month course to learn how to meditate. It turned out to be the real thing. About one month into the course I was engaged in a walking meditation trying to focus my mind and suddenly I saw that my whole life up to that point was a very long story. Everything I did and thought was simply a way of adding to that story or confirming certain parts of that story; and I knew that the story was not me. It was just a story.

Later, when my mind calmed further and we were about three months into the course we were told that at the beginning of a sitting meditation we should ask "Who is the consciousness?". As I asked this I realized again with even more clarity that there was a mind thinking and another being concentrating.

Need I say more. It's been one of the most amazing things I've ever learned. Shortly thereafter I learned by chance about some guy named Eckhart Tolle (with a name like that, I thought, I'd become a spiritual teacher too) and a book called Power of Now. I read it and my life has never been the same.

That's what happened to me. Hope it's as good for you as it was for me!

Welcome to the forum
Hey yours sounds much better quality because I would have just looked at the nearest guilty looking person and pointed him out.

8)