Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

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Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by goldenbirdies » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:07 pm

"Presence", "Awareness", "Oneness" are an experience beyond words, and this is the view of Eckhart, the Zen Masters et al. Also it is beyond the mind.

Based on this, is there a certain irony in having an Eckhart discussion group ? And a bigger irony that many posts are as long and as analytical as essays ?

I do not mean to sound negative, and I have enjoyed reading here, but the paradox remains...

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by kiki » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:38 pm

but the paradox remains...
This implies that there is something "wrong" with paradox.
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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by DWBH1953 » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:45 pm

goldenbirdies wrote:"Presence", "Awareness", "Oneness" are an experience beyond words, and this is the view of Eckhart, the Zen Masters et al. Also it is beyond the mind.

Based on this, is there a certain irony in having an Eckhart discussion group ? And a bigger irony that many posts are as long and as analytical as essays ?

I do not mean to sound negative, and I have enjoyed reading here, but the paradox remains...

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Yes and thank the gods it is so David. I love paradoxes. As you come closer and closer to Oneness you end up with only paradoxes to use if you wish to talk about non duality.
So where is the problem? It only makes sense that paradoxes will be there, when you mix absolute truth with words you end up with this.
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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by goldenbirdies » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:21 pm

DWBH1953 wrote: As you come closer and closer to Oneness you end up with only paradoxes to use if you wish to talk about non duality.
So where is the problem? It only makes sense that paradoxes will be there, when you mix absolute truth with words you end up with this.
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I don't wish to talk about Non duality.

Moderators - please delete all my posts and remove me from this forum.

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by heidi » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:31 pm

You are welcome to remove your own posts and remove yourself from the forum any time you like. It's your responsibility, not that of moderators.
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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by Sighclone » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:52 pm

Heidi is right, goldenbirdies. And you will not be the first to do so. Be well, I've enjoyed your participation!

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by Glen » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:18 pm

Wow, this thread turned around quickly

I'm so happy right now so don't want to get involved

I'm going to do some research to make sure I have the correct understanding of non duality :)
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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by goldenbirdies » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:34 pm

Sighclone wrote: Be well, I've enjoyed your participation!

Namaste, Andy
You'll be delighted to hear that I'm still here, in that case ! (subject to Moderator approval). I had a strange paranoid attack in response to what turned out to be a highly illuminating post from DWBH53!

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by DWBH1953 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:25 am

goldenbirdies wrote: You'll be delighted to hear that I'm still here, in that case ! (subject to Moderator approval). I had a strange paranoid attack in response to what turned out to be a highly illuminating post from DWBH53!

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by goldenbirdies » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:12 am

DWBH1953 wrote:[You made my day so happy you chose to stay.
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Thanks Randji - and long may the paradoxes (or is it "parodi" ?) continue! :)

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by Sighclone » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:34 am

Welcome back goldenbirdies, er welcome-not-having-left back!! :)

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by +Jim+ » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:39 am

Dear friends
the only paradoxes that exist, exist in thought. :wink:
Intellectual understanding is totally inadequate for meeting daily life.
It's like attempting to nourish yourself on the memory of yesterday's lunch!


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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by doug » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:15 pm

as mentioned in other threads, Tolle suggests against discussing the teachings

Andy and possibly another moderator can explain better why...

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by Dory701 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:42 pm

goldenbirdies wrote:"Presence", "Awareness", "Oneness" are an experience beyond words, and this is the view of Eckhart, the Zen Masters et al. Also it is beyond the mind.

Based on this, is there a certain irony in having an Eckhart discussion group ? And a bigger irony that many posts are as long and as analytical as essays ?

I do not mean to sound negative, and I have enjoyed reading here, but the paradox remains...

David
Tolle himself says its a miracle he is able to say so much about something that can not be spoken of. But if the masters of that which can not be spoken of, can speak of it on a couple of thousand CD's and book after book, what harm is there in speaking of it here? (disregard the improper grammar. I can't think of any other way to express it)(since it's not expressible anyway)

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Re: Is the Eckhart Tolle Discussion Forum an Oxymoron?

Post by Webwanderer » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:17 pm

doug wrote:as mentioned in other threads, Tolle suggests against discussing the teachings

Andy and possibly another moderator can explain better why...
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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ps: so in ET's later books and workshops etc, was he discussing the teachings of the first? Hmm...

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