Medication

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Medication

Post by HandfullaMinerals » Thu May 19, 2011 5:40 pm

Hi all,

Does anyone here have any form of anxiety/mental illness, and have managed to get off any prescribed medications?

I am interested in knowing about cases where the need for medication has expired, because the causes of it all are of course, the pain body.

Thanks

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Re: Medication

Post by 18andlife » Thu May 19, 2011 7:44 pm

In his book "Mastering the Core teachings of the Buddha" Daniel Ingram talks about one of his friends who he considers to be "quite enlightened" and yet still finds it helpful to take medication in the form of mood stabilizers.

There may indeed be ways to get off any prescribed medications but I'm not sure how much of a factor awakening would be in doing so.

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Re: Medication

Post by ZenDrumming » Sat May 21, 2011 10:21 pm

hey Handful. I grew up with sometimes severe anxiety and OCD. I also am diagnosed with ADD, though I think that was more of a consequence of my lifestyle.

I never regularly took meds for an extended period of time, but I've had my fair share of xanax/adderall. In my opinion, anti-anxiety meds are a way of running from yourself instead of tackling the issues head-on. Overcoming anxiety is really about learning to stare your anxiety right in the face and not backing down. The fear actually has no content at all; it's only a projection of your mind. A projection that will collapse once you finally demand for it to show its credentials. Another helpful thing for me is to realize that, no matter what happens, life will go on. Why spend my time paralyzed with fear when I only have a limited amount of time to create my life on this planet? How about taking the time to feel the breeze or sit under a tree? Life is precious!

Ask yourself, "What is really bothering me?" Once you can truly answer that question for yourself, you'll realize that the initial cause for the anxiety is quite trivial. For me, it is usually rooted in some ego battle or ego survival issue. Once I realize that, I can stop fighting and let the ego take the hit :). If you instead find it stems from a fear of dying or fear of loss, take it as an opportunity to practice surrender and humility. Anxiety can be an enormous gateway into awakening that many don't have the privilege to experience. My quest to overcome anxiety is actually what started me on my journey of awakening.

In the case of crippling anxiety or depression, I do think medication may be important. There's no problem with using it as a stepping stone to help you get through the day as long as you remember that it will NOT solve your anxiety issues in the long term. I personally don't believe in the whole "chemical imbalances" thing being a deciding factor. I think that if we have enough presence the proper brain states and chemical balances will follow. I am living proof of this.

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Re: Medication

Post by HandfullaMinerals » Mon May 23, 2011 11:14 am

Hi ZenDrumming,

Thanks for the post.

That has brought in the thought, when I went through a period (quarter life crisis?), it included intense anxiety which was in retrospect a blessing. If I didn't have it, I would probably be sitting at work blissfully unaware, and only vaguely aware of my surroundings. Now there are at times, massive charges of awareness going to my head (in a matter of speaking!) and I can focus on everything in my view all at the same time. (By product)


Talking of by products, I think that 'chemical imbalance' during anxiety are not a cause, they're more accurately an effect of the machinery going out of balance. I don't buy all that chemical imbalance stuff anymore.

Thanks guys
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Re: Medication

Post by Gerald » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:18 am

I think that medication is a psycho pain reducer. It depends on how much pain (baggage) you have to deal with. The difficulty is assessing the amount of pain one can endure without medication. ET says that drugs of any kind disables you from reaching the 'now'. This is a strong statement and has to be considered carefully. If one is taking a particular medication or drug (including alcohol, gambling or even pornography) to escape the pain-body then I would suggest a gradual reduction of the 'drug' while simultaneously distancing yourself from the pain in the way ET describes (letting the thoughts occur and see them as what they are (the mind) from the distant 'being'. I have tried this but the problem is that when you reduce the medication, you get the physical and psychological side effects which reduction to the medication causes and which have to be dealt with whilst dealing with the distancing from the mind. Not easy but when you consider that the mind needs energy from the 'being' to exist, it is only a matter of time before the negative thoughts generated by the mind weaken when they are starved by the 'being'. :roll:

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Re: Medication

Post by Nutkins2 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:20 pm

Hi ya HandfullaMinerals,

I have been taking Seroxat for about 13 years. I take it for OCD and i believe that i have ADD. It is because of a lack of chemical in my brain. I too felt bad about taking meds for 'mental' health problems. But let me ask you this, If you had a heart problem or diabetes, etc, would you feel the same way about stopping taking the meds that help keep you alive?

My meds stop me from completely going over the edge because i obviously need them but i believe that i can still function normally because the meds give me chemically what my brain doesn't.

I still have to be present and live in the Now, i am not a zombie!

Godbless
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