A discussion community revolving around Eckhart Tolle but not limited to him
alex wrote:Wow a 500 page essay on someone's victim story. The truth ain't easy, those who are shown their flaws and who aren't true seekers will generally go into denial and project their 'fucked upness' onto the person doing the showing. That's what that story sounds like to me.
I wouldn't by-pass The Work because of one (slightly emotionally damaged sounding) person's opinion.
Onceler wrote:I would say the theme of the story is self reliance, either way you look at it.
DavidB wrote:Before we become too enamored with "the work", we might want to inform ourselves a little more.
http://m.friendfeed-media.com/277ac5ef9 ... ca9127db9e
Janaki's experience with Byron Katie was quite enlightening, but not in the ways you might expect. Byron isn't quite the person we all get the impression she is.
Janaki wrote:Katie emphasizes very strongly that The Work is not therapy. She has always done this. On
the Release of Liability form for The School it says, It is not therapeutic in design. I was
always completely in line with this, and whenever anyone would compare The Work with
therapy, I would argue against it quite strongly. The comparison that I heard most of all was
with Cognitive Therapy.
Wikipedia wrote:Cognitive therapy is based on the cognitive model, which states that thoughts, feelings and behavior are all connected, and that individuals can move toward overcoming difficulties and meeting their goals by identifying and changing unhelpful or inaccurate thinking, problematic behavior, and distressing emotional responses. This involves the individual working collaboratively with the therapist to develop skills for testing and modifying beliefs, identifying distorted thinking, relating to others in different ways, and changing behaviors. Therapy may consist of testing the assumptions which one makes and looking for new information that could help shift the assumptions in a way that leads to different emotional or behavioral reactions. People who are working with a cognitive therapist often practice the use of more flexible ways to think and respond, learning to ask themselves whether their thoughts are completely true, and whether those thoughts are helping them to meet their goals.
According to Beck's theory of the etiology of depression, depressed people acquire a negative schema of the world in childhood and adolescence.
Beck also identified a number of other cognitive distortions, which can contribute to depression, including the following: arbitrary inference, selective abstraction, overgeneralization, magnification and minimization.
Therapists or computer-based programs use CBT techniques to help individuals challenge their patterns and beliefs and replace "errors in thinking such as overgeneralizing, magnifying negatives, minimizing positives and catastrophizing" with "more realistic and effective thoughts, thus decreasing emotional distress and self-defeating behavior."
So yes, clearly Byron Katie's work is very similar to CBT ... now was there an intentional 'plagiarism' from BK is another question ...
alex wrote: It's not all love and space and peace. A true teacher will point out what you can't and don't want to see. A true teacher is all about truth. Truth only. Bringing the light of truth to all that is unconscious in you. That sure can be uncomfortable but if you are also into truth then you're going to want to hear it. You'll have to be brave enough to look for yourself.
BK: I am devoted to total world peace. I am the world. Of course I would have all the parts of me showing in that place within me for the party. I supply a way, a path home and they follow it or not. As it should be.
I thought you were a guru, then I saw you pooping.
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