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ashley72 wrote:It's all feedback! If you missed it last time you'll see it next time!
Once you realize deeply the significance of the loop... You will laugh & chuckle at it all.
meetjoeblack wrote:I think "force" is likely part of the problem. If I force myself to do something, it feels like a fight rather than actual choice. I always notice if I let myself feel whatever it is, I usually notice it subsides or at the very least, it is not as amplified. If I resist it, it makes it worse especially as feelings like resentment, anger or others take root.
dijmart wrote:Yes, resistance makes it seem worse, as thoughts come more rapidly, it also can cause over "reactions" that may not have happened without resistance.
I will share that pain is flowing "in/to" me (awareness) right now. I didn't cause it and I can't control it, it will cease when it's ready, but my job as the "person/jiva" im associated with is to do whatever action is necessary on my part and not resist what comes although the thoughts associated with the pain can heighten it momentarily. What comes will go... that's the same for pain and pleasure. They are objects appearing to you (awareness). As the jiva this is hard to accept, if you don't know who you are, even if you know who you are pain is painful...until is dissipates and it always does.
This too shall pass!
It does not seem to when in the trap of frustration
I have had fortunate moments of peace or what I could only describe as my own version of enlightenment which is of course short lived. My ego flairs up sooner or later or life provokes me.
dijmart wrote:Here I believe your referring to me saying it always dissipates. It does, dissipate that is, unless you keep "whatever" alive by feeding into it (believing it, reliving it, rehashing it, etc). Another words, if you won't let the bothersome stream of thinking burn itself out, then yeah, it will plague you and make you suffer.
I guess I should have said, for me, it dissipates. If its something preticularly troublesome, it may take hours or a few days for it to totally burn itself out, but it does always burn itself out, eventually. It depends how much attention and energy i give to the thoughts and if there's any problem solving that needs to be worked through. Even if there is, I know ultimately it is just Mithya, only "apparently" real.
Needless mind chatter, I can usually swat away like a pesky fly, but give me something more annoying or concerning and the effort seems to increase.
Right, it's tough, you have to discriminate between you (awareness) and MJB. You think you are MJB having glimpses of awareness. But actually you are awareness, aware OF MJB. He arises within you, you are associated with him, he exists, but he's not real. You (awareness) are always present, always. What makes you identify with the thinking mind is that you think it's you! You haven't yet come to realize that fundamentally you are awareness and having said that you are nondual. So, the person you appear to be is also awareness, but only as so far as it is made out of awareness, but you are not it. As no object (which the person is!) Can in any way define you, pure awareness, the substratum of all that exists.
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