death of ego and depression

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Re: death of ego and depression

Postby FrequencyHolder » Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:04 pm

Thank you for your replies.

Eagle2phoenix, you make complete sense. And Andy, thank you, that also makes complete sense.

Andy, could you please explain more about final shift?

thanks. :)
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Re: death of ego and depression

Postby eagle2phoenix » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:45 pm

I know I am feeling blue... but why do I feel like crying?

In the last hour, I just watched the movie Bolt with my 3 sons and we totally enjoyed it. Now I feel sad... My ego is whispering to me that I am not good enough, that I will soon tire myself with this forum. In fact, when I read stuff that are not quite what I know, I feel sidelined. My ego is afraid of being sidelined. My ego wants attention. But who is typing this down then? My ego's ego?

I feel I am going nuts at times. Then it passes. What is going on???

Argh...
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Re: death of ego and depression

Postby Sighclone » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:58 pm

"Final shift." Ok...I'm one who believes in progressive enlightenment. There is dispute about this. Adyashanti had three changes on his path (see the interview at the end of the second edition of "Emptiness Dancing", 2006.) By "on the way to the final shift" in that earlier post, I meant that period after the inner search for truth has begun. Most experienced people suggest that meditation is part of the journey; so my "on the way..." phrase means after one has begun meditation.

The jury is back on meditation - it improves health, both physical and mental. Whether it has anything absolutely to do with waking up is the area of controversy. I believe it does.

Namaste, Andy
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There is not past, no future; everything flows in an eternal present. - James Joyce
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Re: death of ego and depression

Postby DWBH1953 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:18 pm

Sighclone wrote:"Final shift." Ok...I'm one who believes in progressive enlightenment. There is dispute about this. Adyashanti had three changes on his path (see the interview at the end of the second edition of "Emptiness Dancing", 2006.) By "on the way to the final shift" in that earlier post, I meant that period after the inner search for truth has begun. Most experienced people suggest that meditation is part of the journey; so my "on the way..." phrase means after one has begun meditation.

The jury is back on meditation - it improves health, both physical and mental. Whether it has anything absolutely to do with waking up is the area of controversy. I believe it does.

Namaste, Andy


I do believe in progressive awakening. I really like the way Tony Parsons talks about this.
He does talk about levels of awakening and then he talks of a place he calls final liberation and he describes it as when everything collaspes on you and the You completley dissapears so from that place or point you are gone, you simply do not see yourself as a person anymore it is not a intellectual shift but a engertic shift and when it happens there normally comes a adjustment period of time because your still in a human body and all that but it changes completley the way you relate to everything.
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Do not think that you are-be!
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