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David92506 wrote:From my understanding, Eckhart Tolle teaches us that we don't choose life, life chooses us.
Doesn't the LoA say we need to focus our energies on what we want, change our vibrations, and it will come to us? Isn't the LoA saying, "We choose life."?
The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment is a book by Eckhart Tolle. The book is intended to be a self-help guide for day-to-day living and stresses the importance of living in the present moment and avoiding thoughts of the past or future. According to the book, only the present moment is important, and both an individual's past and future is created by their thoughts. The author maintains that people's insistence that they have control of their life is an illusion "that only brings pain".
coriolis wrote:To me LoA is a call to incite people to want more.
My life experience has shown me that peace and happiness are found in the opposite direction of wanting less.
Webwanderer wrote:My take is that in a universe of infinite abundance, wanting more is as natural as being itself. 'More' is likely the underlying reason we are here in this physical incarnation. It is likely the reason for the universe itself.coriolis wrote:To me LoA is a call to incite people to want more material stuff.
My life experience has shown me that peace and happiness are found in the opposite direction of wanting less material stuff.
Consider this for a moment. Are you not stating a desire for more in this statement? More peace and happiness? Isn't the only real distinction the path to that peace and happiness? For you less stuff is the path to more of what you want. Both paths are valid in a universe of infinite possibilities.
The concern, and the lesson, is our relationship with our desires. Do they bring us peace and joy, or do they bring us feelings of lack and failure. My experience is that joy is found in the appreciation of possibilities rather than conditions at hand. Either path offers that same potential for joy.
It's also possible that either path can result in pain and suffering. Focusing on the lack of what we want brings a greater likelihood of pain regardless of whether it's the lack of the 'stuff' we want, or the lack of the conscious clarity we may desire.
LoA is not based on desire alone. LoA responds primarily to beliefs. We can want to be millionaires, or we can want to be enlightened. We can even want to be enlightened millionaires. But if we do not genuinely believe that its possible it's unlikely to become manifest. LoA will manifest an expression of the beliefs in our doubts first because they are what is true and genuine. Then naturally, when desire conflicts with beliefs, there is likely to be stress, and that stress, depending on the strength of the conflict, can become quite painful.
Fear of course is an expression of our beliefs. And to avoid the pain of fear we often stifle our desires for more 'stuff' in favor of another path to peace and happiness. But experience also shows that there can be considerable frustration and pain in not achieving one's goal of awakened being. Many have given up the inner work due to frustration with desired results.
Desires then, regardless of direction, are not the problem. It's clarity of process, or the lack there of, that brings difficulties and pain.
The reality is is that there is beauty in everything - manifestations as well as desires - what is, as well as our imaginings. To the degree one believes this is the degree one finds peace and joy in all life conditions.
coriolis wrote:it leaves me feeling like I've just listened to a spiel from a used car salesman.
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