RT said: NDE experiences appear to suggest using this human life to evolve appropriately to the next 'level' of existence.
On the other hand, non-duality (Vedanta) suggests bypassing all of the levels of evolution/existence/experience by getting to the core 'I AM'.
I sort of vacillate between both points of view. Anyway, I'm enjoying the discussion and would love your point of view on these thoughts.
It's a little difficult to describe the impact of seeing/knowing 'personal' experiences that were intimately known from a 'personal' perspective in which you 'thought' you knew the 'matter' and importance of it and then be thrown into the ability to view it all from the widest (into infinity) impersonal perspective of it.
In the oneness/light it you see / know the infiniteness of it and how much one was not aware of by the density of their attachment to their particular perspective. My 'fear' of my friend's murder/er as an example.
That this is layered by the all-embracing-all-knowing-okayness and eternalness of everything as seen/known in the light, it becomes very hard to only 'appreciate' one perspective of anything, even on return to a less awarely-dimensional 'existence'.
Non-dual for me is a double negative expression of the oneness.
It's not that there is no duality it's that the duality IS the oneness (two sides of a coin are one coin). There is no need to eliminate fear - (often just false emotions appearing real) within the oneness love moves energy towards embracing something outside of one (physical) self perspective, so does fear, so does empathy, compassion, respect, the 'reverse' of a thing is the same energy field as the 'thing'.
They are two sides of a coin that generates opportunities for experiences of growth beyond what many believe is their separate self that will have an impact on that separate self. Opportunities to be, with no 'choice' being wrong, just bringing a different experience.
On the love/fear 'coin', it's more 'noticing' that it is fear energy in motion, or love energy in motion. There is no thing 'wrong' with fear. There is no thing wrong with thoughts, there is no thing wrong with ego - they are all just different viewings of a thing.
For me, as a sailor it's like saying Easterly winds are better to get me from A to B, so lets eliminate any West wind... what the???
Since my nde I more 'notice' and accept that West winds blow, just as East and North and South winds do, and to 'notice' what is blowing and do whatever is best in the situation in the conditions. For me sometimes the non-dual 'no thingness' stuff of silence and stillness etc get overzealous like saying well if we get rid of all winds completely then we will be fine.
Good luck with that!
Energy is particles or whatever in motion eternally. That is what the 'all' is. Is-ness is accepting that. You will not know the fullness of love unless you also embrace the fear of/in it.
Duality and non-duality are equally 'one' as well, so maybe nde'ers seem to have a bob each way lol!!!