The Law of Confusion- an essay

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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Sighclone » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:15 am

WW -

I agree about quality effort, sorry. I was just commenting on the math in the internal probablility analogy in this thread. If I have seen 52 rolls without a two, yes, I will begin betting. The dice do not know what color the chips are. $1,000 per roll? Not me. $1,000 in 100 bets, maybe. Only has to hit three or four times in 100 rolls (at 30:1), which, in my experience, will happen after 52 rolls of "no two." I'll stop as soon as I'm ahead. In a given year, I spend about 20 hours at the craps table. Most of that is wasted. But I enjoy watching streaks. Some years I win, some I lose. Overall, in the last 15 years, I am a slight loser. Did better in the other casino game, the stock market. I probably have the gambling gene, which has been isolated. My dad did, I'm sure.

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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby enigma » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:25 am

I probably have the gambling gene


I'd be willing to bet there's a high probability you do. :lol:
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Sighclone » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:44 am

I also have the "go bald early" gene, the "not very tall gene" and the "blue eyes" gene. None, including the gambling one have caused serious problems for my body/mind. That I am aware of. Yet.... :mrgreen:

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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Ida » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:13 am

What a wonderful essay! :)

Thought I might add my thoughts aruond this one.
I think it stands as -in the field of your own power-, but there is one "power" greater and bigger; The univers.
Life always give you what you NEED, not always what you want ;)
So, if you desire things or happenings that you don't need, you might not get what you wantet, but something bigger.
Not bigger in out-world prespective, but in your inner-life prespective. Felt good or bad. Even if it is restistans against your plans.
We do not always see the total picture, thats why we often find it difficult to deal with.
I hope you don't mind that I put down in words how wonderful life is while you're in the world
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Narz » Fri May 06, 2011 6:20 pm

The way I feel about "L"oA can be summed up in a nice quote : "Two hands working is better than a thousand hands praying." :)
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Sighclone » Fri May 06, 2011 6:39 pm

They once asked Martin Luther, "If you had a vision, a very clear vision, with angels present, etc. that the world would end in one week, what would you do?"

His answer: "Plant corn."

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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby WhatisMu » Fri May 06, 2011 6:59 pm

Sighclone wrote:They once asked Martin Luther, "If you had a vision, a very clear vision, with angels present, etc. that the world would end in one week, what would you do?"

His answer: "Plant corn."

Andy


I love this quote!

You know, my thought on this is that it is often misunderstood - or maybe it is that I willfully misunderstand it and give it my own spin!

To me the law of attraction is self evident and is as much about selective perception as it is about anything else. If you are positive and happy, things tend to seem better and you DO attract better things to yourself. How many people who run around being Negative Nancy get great things piling up around them? Would they even see great things as great things, even if they were right under their nose?

As to the whole desire and manifesting thing... my thought is that if you think that getting rich is going to make you happy and you sit around wanting that, you are probably going to be unhappy even if you do manage to get what it is you think you want. The people who promote this thinking and practice have a lot of good points. I have heard them say that people who accomplished great things had no idea how they were going to do it when they started out. I would add that they probably worked their bunns off, too. They probably didnt get there by just WANTING it. I can certainly see how thinking that just sitting around wanting things could be called spiritual poison. Get off yer duff and plant some corn if you want corn, and dont let any foretellings of doom get in your way!

Desire and attachment are not the answer. Wanting things because you think those things are going to solve all your troubles is also not the answer. Having said this, I believe ET when he says that when you say a genuine YES to what is, to this moment, things just happen for you and it is amazing what can flow through you. I think there is a big difference between the two ways of being.
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Sighclone » Fri May 06, 2011 7:09 pm

Wise words, Whatismu...thanks again for joining!!

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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Salem » Fri May 06, 2011 8:35 pm

Well I guess I'm one of those who doesn't understand Martin Luther's quote. What did he mean by that?
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby WhatisMu » Fri May 06, 2011 8:52 pm

Salem wrote:Well I guess I'm one of those who doesn't understand Martin Luther's quote. What did he mean by that?


To me it means that even if someone tells you the end of the world is tomorrow, you keep on trucking and plant corn expecting harvest down the road.
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Quinn » Fri May 06, 2011 9:51 pm

I'll add my 2 cents.

To me that quote means that what's going on right now is IT. It doesn't matter whether the world ends tomorrow or in a thousand years, what's right in front of us right now is perfect - no matter how seemly mundane.
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby Narz » Fri May 06, 2011 11:06 pm

Sighclone wrote:They once asked Martin Luther, "If you had a vision, a very clear vision, with angels present, etc. that the world would end in one week, what would you do?"

His answer: "Plant corn."

Andy

I doubt Martin Luther knew what corn was but it's a nice idea if I understand it correctly (continue to take care of the world 'till your last day).
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby ashley72 » Fri May 06, 2011 11:55 pm

I do not agree with "The Secret" ...and the main premise,that by wishing for form it will manifest and find you.

However, I have given the whole issue some serious thought. I even took the time, a few months ago, to visualize Eckhart Tolle's teachings about forms into a diagram that I pondered for some time. What I found is that any attraction also has its opposite, repulsion, and at the centre of it, in the drivers seat, is the egoic mind. The egoic mind is fascinated by form, addicted in fact. But you can't have attraction, without repulsion. Also forms dissolve eventually.

Attraction = Desire. Repulsion = Fear

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I've also realized recently, that the egoic mind looks at the world like a mosaic, the Ego forms an inner mosaic, built of securities and insecurities, desires & fears. When the egoic mind encounters certain mosaic tiles in the outer world... It relates back to one of the mosaic tiles making up the ego. If it is an insecurity we have a repulsion to that outer form, if it is a security we have an attraction to that form. If it's formless the egoic mind will miss it completely. Link here
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby autumnsphere » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:27 pm

I'm not going to do an overintellectual analysis or something, just give my 2 cents.

I do feel that Tolle and positive thinking/LoA have something in common. And it's non-resistance. If you don't resist anything, <puke> the Universe works for you </puke>. And it's not some magical law, it's basic psychology. If your mind is clear, if you're lucid and your neurons are trained to fire in a positive way, you can get anything done.
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Re: The Law of Confusion- an essay

Postby autumnsphere » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:40 pm

ashley72 wrote:What I found is that any attraction also has its opposite, repulsion, and at the centre of it, in the drivers seat, is the egoic mind. The egoic mind is fascinated by form, addicted in fact. But you can't have attraction, without repulsion. Also forms dissolve eventually.


In 1793 a wise guy (and mystic) named Willian Blake wrote a poem called The Marriage of Heaven and Hell (a true non-dualist, isn't he?):

Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence.
From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil. Good is the passive that obeys Reason. Evil is the active springing from Energy.
Good is Heaven. Evil is Hell.

The voice of the Devil.

All Bibles or sacred codes have been the causes of the following Errors.
1. That Man has two real existing principles Viz: a Body & a Soul.
2. That Energy, call'd Evil, is alone from the Body, & that Reason, call'd Good, is alone from the Soul.
3. That God will torment Man in Eternity for following his Energies.

But the following Contraries to these are True

1. Man has no Body distinct from his Soul for that call'd Body is a portion of Soul discern'd by the five Senses, the chief inlets of Soul in this age
2. Energy is the only life and is from the Body and Reason is the bound or outward circumference of Energy.
3 Energy is Eternal Delight



There's even a nice song by my favorite band: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P-l-P0n ... re=related
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