Ananda, your entire essay is based on countless false assumptions and misunderstandings of what is in fact at the root of these teachings.
You talk about nonduality and how that is the one genuine spirituality, which is about "understanding Reality, and understanding oneself, not through belief systems
", yet your whole so called essay is a reflection of your strong beliefs on this subject (which you do not really understand) and your judgement of it.
Do you really know the value this has to others, in general, and even within the context of the path to enlightenment?
Andy responded almost apologetically about the existence of this subcategory, but other than the fact it is a subject that comes up in relation to the teachings commonly discussed here, I feel it is in fact something that has much value for many of the same people who are drawn to the teachings of Eckhart Tolle.
All these so called spiritual teachings, do not come to represent truth, but to serve as pointers, which are meant to lead to personal experience of that toward which they point.
You say this subject should be banned from the forum, but even Eckhart Tolle, Adyashanti, Jed McKenna touch upon the validity of the basic principle. Perhaps you should contact them as well, ask them not to mention, and surely not express anything that might be interpreted as supporting it.
I was just listening to A New Earth at random and picked out a few quotes from there. I'm sure if I had more time to look, I'd find much more:
If the thought of lack – whether it
be money, recognition, or love – has become part of who you think you are,
you will always experience lack.
Try this for a couple of weeks and see how it changes your reality:
Whatever you think people are withholding from you praise,
assistance, loving care, and so on – give it to them. You don't have it? Just
act as if you had it, and it will come.
You don't need to
own anything to feel abundant, although if you feel abundant consistently
things will almost certainly come to you. Abundance comes only to those
who already have it. It sounds almost unfair, but of course it isn't. It is a
universal law. Both abundance and scarcity are inner states that manifest as
Here are some quotes from Jed McKenna:
"You talk a lot about the light of intellect and the power of discrimination," one of the
guys asks out of the blue, as if he's been saving it up. "Is your third eye open?"
That's a sure sign that the fun stuff is over and that tedious kid stuff will fill out the rest of
the evening. Nothing to do but make the best of it.
"Nope, uh, not that I know of... I mean, no, I don't think so... Hmm, I don't know... nah,
well, maybe... maybe not, I guess not... probably not... Actually, I really don't know. Er...
hmm, does that answer your question?"
"Uh, I don't know what the answer was," he answers. Everyone laughs.
"Yeah," I continue reluctantly, "well, if you're asking just from curiosity about me, the
answer is I don't know. I get a bit confused when the discussion turns metaphysical. If
you're asking because you want to know if mystical powers are necessary to achieve
enlightenment, then the answer is no-no superpowers required. If you're asking whether
or not you get mystical powers as, like, a perk or something when you become
enlightened, then the answer is not so clear. I don't see auras or know the future or
anything like that. I suppose I could go out and develop some mystical skills, but I
wouldn't know what to do with them. I have no such desire.
"On the other hand, I have, uh... heightened abilities might be a good way to put it, that
most of you haven't gotten around to developing or recognizing in yourselves yet. These
abilities are not really related to enlightenment directly, though, at least, they don't hinge
upon it, nor it on they. I'm talking about the ability to manifest desires, for one, to shape
your personal reality. Another might be the ability to view life not in detail, but in broad
patterns, as if from a greater altitude, and to flow through it from that more elevated
perspective. That's why I get hesitant when asked about my third eye and all that.
Someone who doesn't have the knowledge to shape his personal reality might consider it
a power or as something mystical, whereas to me it's just something I have the
knowledge to do. It's something I started doing for very practical purposes before
enlightenment, and I never thought of it as anything but the way things really work.
There's no great mystery. It's only magic when you don't know how it works. It's only
mystical when you don't understand it. Once you know, you know. You've either seen
fire or you haven't. If you haven't seen it then all you know is what you've been told. If
you've seen it, then the mystery and wonder is gone. It's just fire. I don't think the guy
who adjusts the timing on my car is a mystically empowered dude, he just knows how to
do something I don't."
Almost all of them react at the same time to the mention of channeled material. The
general response seems to be a mixture of surprise and incredulity.
"I find channeled material very useful and interesting, not just for teaching but for my
own understanding of the phenomenal world in which, as you can see, I exist just like
anyone else. If you want me to be specific, I'd say I like Michael for understanding ego
and personality structure. When it comes to the nature of personal reality I like Seth. If I
have questions about flow and manifestation and desire, then I read Abraham. Another
one I enjoy is A Course In Miracles, especially the list at the beginning. I might be
forgetting something, but those are the main ones I like."
"So those channeled entities were instrumental in your own ....
"Oh, no, no, not really," I wave a hand dismissively. "It's more like, combined, they make
up my user's manual for being a human on earth. This is why I want to be careful about
this discussion. I like the books I mentioned, but I don't really look at them that often.
Usually just when I have a specific question. I don't read them for amusement... Well,
maybe a little."
Lisa says something. I open one eye. then the other.
"What?" I ask.
You said it's there for everyone," she says. "that even in the ego-bound
state we can still participate, but I don't really see that. Where is that
It takes me a minute to parse her question.
"Everywhere." I say. "Everyone has some direct experience of what I'm
talking about, where they sense that there's more to life than meets the eye,
that there's something going on that they don't see. Maybe they have good
instincts or intuition. Maybe they read their horoscopes in the paper. or
play with tarot cards or read tea leaves or chicken gizzards. A lot of people
detect higher powers at work in their lives: they experience periods of flow
where everything goes just right, they see coincidence and suspect it's more
than that. they acknowledge some behind-the-scenes agency at work and
they call it synchronicity or serendipity or providence or Cod's hand."
Lisa is writing down the examples as I come up with them.
"I'm kind of out of touch with the human experience," I continue. "but
I think most people see things they call miracles or divine intervention,
guardian angels helping out, prayers answered, deities or discarnate entities
participating in their lives. They see events unfolding just so, auspiciously
or fortuitously or whatever: the certain accident they miraculously
avoided, the money that came at just the right time, how just the right
person came into their life. God working in mysterious ways. that sort of
thing. Do you not think so?"
"I don't know what I think." she says heavily. "It's all so much. How
does someone even get started with all this?"
'Manifestation is the visible part of the integration iceberg: the gross
level of integration that even the most eyes-tight-shut person can sometimes
detect. When people begin. if they begin. they begin by manifesting
small, simple things: good parking spaces and luck with green lights, for
example. It works and they think its pretty nifty, but most people never go
much further with it. They hit a roadblock when their bank accounts don't
grow or their waistlines don't shrink and they dismiss the whole thing as,
literally, wishful thinking. They don't engage the process or allow it to
engage them. The tipping point comes, if it comes. with the realization
that little successes like parking spots and traffic lights aren't the exception,
they're the rule, and when they don't come as requested. it just means
you didn't understand the rule. But you can. "
She sighs and makes notes.
"Some people go further with it," I say. "They read some books, learn
to see the process, understand it. own it. They merge into the process, and,
to some degree. learn to put these forces to work in their lives. That's nice,
but they're still cheating themselves, like working in the mailroom of a
company and swiping office supplies, never realizing that they own the
company. Something like that. "
"I'm not sure I understand this at all." she moans as she writes.
"Understanding it conceptually doesn't matter much." I look at the
cool blue water of the pool in front of us. "You learn to swim by jumping
into the water and swimming. not by sitting in a classroom studying aquadynamic
theory. Practical application is what matters, and you're already in
the pool. so to speak. The rest takes care of itself through natural processes
of experimentation and observation and play. just like you developed your
balance as a toddler. You weren't born with a finely-tuned balance mechanism:
it developed over time as you got up and started using it."
I'm not quoting this stuff because it proves anything. It is interesting and meaningful to me because of my own personal experiences. But these are teachers who are held in high regard around these parts, and they acknowledge the validity of the basic principles involved.
I’d like to point out, that I’m not here to defend “The Secret”. I personally don’t like it, and I think it’s much too superficial to truly be useful. And her whole approach and aggressive marketing makes it quite distasteful to me. But The Secret
is merely an attempt to simplify and popularize something that is much more subtle to understand and master.
I see more and more people around the forum who dismiss this stuff outright, and form strong beliefs against it, without any real examination. I think anytime a person does that, about anything, he's only doing himself a disservice, dismissing some part of life as invalid.