arel wrote:Hello Leon. I have supporting evidence in my own experience that consciousness creates "the brain" rather then "the brain" creates consciousness. Any theory and evidence you present of the brain and it's ties to consciousness, it all comes in the presence of consciousness. So I conclude through concrete evidence that it is here with or without the brain.
I also have prove of afterlife. When I or you die, what, if anything remains, can you contemplate it and state what you think? There seems to be that which never changes. So "afterlife" to me is not originally meant to mean somewhere in the clouds with angels, or devils, or even 40 virgins, but rather THAT which is after life. It's a pointer for contemplation. What do you think?
Very nice Arel. Yes, I agree. When someone dies Awareness goes right on being Aware. That is one of the most beautiful things one notices at the loss of a loved one. They are, in many ways, still here as the self that included them is still here.
It is a wonderful and an authentic revelation, really, one that releases us from the grips of a belief in limited objective system forever.
And when the body leaves us, they did not take a chunk of that Awareness-I-Am with them when their brain quit working---The Self that knew them is still here, so they really don't go anywhere. Besides that, we don't look out and see gaping hole in Life where that body once stood. If that body was the possessor of awareness then it would take that little bit of awareness it possessed with it. Clearly, it does not, or there would be a hell of a lot of gaping holes where all those billions of folks over thousands of years have died and taken their share of awareness with them.
Life and Awareness are One and Life does not die.
And Awareness is never not aware because It is the function of Something that has no beginning and no end and comes from no thing.
Which is exactly why
no one can prove where Awareness is---they do not know where It 'comes from' or how it began---because it does not come from matter. If it came from matter it would be easy to prove that. But, it does not; It is not the substance of matter--- all matter exists within Awareness. Its pretty easy to see, once you see it. Kind of like the drawing of the Old hag and if you change your perspective you can see a lovely young lady right there in the same view. Its not magic or belief, it is a shift in perspective and 'greater understanding' and we who have seen this shift happen, know what we see.
Nothing exists without the Awareness to see those 'things' called material world forms, times, space objective tangible stuff. The brain is matter and matter does not produce awareness, matter does not create---all creating and all things arise within this Awareness which is the function of One Immaterial Divine Power that exists before this world was.
I do not believe that we have evolved from apes---and really no one has proven it. That does not mean there is only one other choice about this which is the biblical adam and eve scenario. There is another way to see who we are and to understand what Is and neither evolution of the story of Eden is correct---although, the mythical story of Adam and Eve certainly has more depth and power and meaning and symbolism than the came from apes thing which leaves out anything called soul, spirit, quantum particles, photons and the why or how of the whole universe entire.
Life is eternal and never ending and our Identity is Life Itself, unbound to human expectations.
Awareness is primary. That is for sure. And speaking of edges of Universes---the Voyager I and II Telescopes are now almost there---How remarkable the Entire Universe it has flown through is our very Self Awareness being explored. That, out there, is Here within This Awareness I Am, or I could not know, explore, have telescopes seeing that edge of Universe, if that were not so. Symbolically, as living metaphor within this Infinite Self-Awareness-- we may be reaching the very edge and the very beginning of True Self-discovery.
Anyway, I think you said it very well, Arel and thank you for that.
You are not finished, until you play in that meadow and live there. You can, you know. But only you can take yourself there.