Is There Really an Afterlife?

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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby smiileyjen101 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:47 am

Yutso: NDE prey upon the weak in mind as a means to an end and the end is money.

That's an extremely narrow perspective, but I'd be interested in a deeper exploration of it. What makes you say this? What is your premise and substantiation?
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Yutso » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:39 am

Ego desires to be interminable. Ego desires "proof" of being interminable. Money to be made giving "proof". Being just happy being, desires nothing.
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby smiileyjen101 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:37 am

Ego desires to be interminable.
Ego desires "proof" of being interminable.

The energy that makes up all life is eternal

Money to be made giving "proof".

Life is abundant, money is a construct of 'value'; it means different things and has different 'value' to different people.
This is not the motivation for discussing personal experiences.
It can be that some are recompensed for work towards understanding.
No different to any one in any field with experience and knowledge to contribute to a society that has a basis of economics.

Being just happy being, desires nothing.

One still probably desires to eat, to have shelter, to grow, to participate in society... etc etc
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Yutso » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:21 am

Form desires to eat, etc. Formless desires nothing.
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Webwanderer » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:41 am

Yutso wrote:Form desires to eat, etc. Formless desires nothing.

The fact that form exists is strongly suggestive that formless desired expansion/new expression. The physical universe didn't just happen, it was caused, and cause/intent is the natural outgrowth of desire.

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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Yutso » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:12 pm

So the formless "desired" new expression resulting in plague causing bacteria?
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Webwanderer » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:58 pm

Yutso wrote:So the formless "desired" new expression resulting in plague causing bacteria?

I would suggest that the 'formless' desired a new, unique, and challenging environment through which to encourage conscious expansion. How many once plague causing bacteria are now rendered inert? Challenges are ultimately mastered, and in the mean time those perspectives of consciousness that physically succumbed to the environment simply returned to a non-physical state to decide on their next adventure. Life is eternal.


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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Yutso » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:11 pm

WW writes, "I would suggest that the 'formless' desired a new, unique, and challenging environment through which to encourage conscious expansion." So millions suffered plagues to satisfy the "formless"? Good grief. Was't there another way the formless could pull it off? (encourage conscious expansion)?
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby rideforever » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:26 pm

Your ancestors are bacteria !

Without bacteria you would not exist. Ignorance !
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Webwanderer » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:32 pm

Yutso wrote: So millions suffered plagues to satisfy the "formless"?

No worries. The formless only took volunteers. Besides, if there is but One Life, who are these millions if not extensions of the One's own being?

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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Yutso » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:57 pm

"The formless only took volunteers." Ah, yes. The law of attraction. So the formless dosn't really give a rat"s ass about humans.
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Webwanderer » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:35 pm

Yutso wrote:"The formless only took volunteers." Ah, yes. The law of attraction. So the formless dosn't really give a rat"s ass about humans.

The formless only loves. Your being, your existence, is an expression of that love. Open up to it and it will guide you and bring you clarity, judge it and you will cut yourself off from your experience of it. Even so it will love you in your self-imposed isolation and always be available when ever you are ready to allow it in.

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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Yutso » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:09 pm

Ego desires an afterlife. Being desires nothing, is content simply to be.
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby smiileyjen101 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:25 pm

Being desires nothing, is content simply to be.

So being doesn't take things personally. It just changes form.
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Re: Is There Really an Afterlife?

Postby Yutso » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:09 pm

Being is eternal, does not desire to be what it already is. Ego desires to be eternal.
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