My congratulations truthseekingseeker
on your wiser approach to discussing your concerns. (Refraining from personal attacks and name-calling is an improvement in civility.) Not that I agree with your characterizations, I don't. I'm not sure what concerns you more, the price structure of his talks, or your concept of how Tolle defines ego.
truthseekingseeker wrote:Here's a much better definition of ego that gets to the truth of this matter...
Much better than what? Can you quote Tolle on his definition of ego? He's stated it many times in many ways.
...If you so much as live and breathe, you have a baseline ego.
Is this a definition of ego? It seems just a recognition of it's appearance. Please clarity with your own understanding of what ego is. I'm not interested in a quote from someone else, I'm asking about yours. Don't tell me what it does, tell me what it is.
So I believe there are just degrees of ego, not a fundamental radical elimination as Tolle would have you believe.
It seems I remember Tolle stating on multiple occassions that the disolution of ego, for most, is a gradual process, in fact rarely happens radically.
And I feel it actually causes people on here and in the world serious harm sending that false and hypocritical message, one that he's amply demonstrated.
Wow, I know you're "new" here, but have you read the endless accounts, on this forum alone, of people who were liberated from entrapping beliefs by following in their own lives the teachings of Tolle. How do you think Tolle's books sold so many millions of copies if not for the benefit his readers gained? He would not be giving talks on the scale that he does if not for the great numbers of people who were awakened by his teaching.
There is something in his message that touches certain people deeply and wakens them to a reality that conceptual thinking and eroneous beliefs had previously obscured from them. I am deeply sorry that you have missed the freedom that his teaching offers. You are not alone, there are others who have yet to see it as well. It's just a reality that somes seeds grow and others do not. The good news is that clarity in the present moment is always available. Make a clear distinction between the judgemental blabbering of the mind and the awareness that recognizes it and awakening is at hand.
I would encourage you to not give up, but spend some time in silent prayer that the truth of your essential nature becomes clear to you. If you are genuine in your desire, and are patient and open to whatever the truth may be, I'm confident that clarity will dawn.
EDIT: I just watched the Tolle/Oprah lesson 3. It's main theme was ego, in which Tolle defined and discribed it a number of ways. If you missed it, and your interested in what Tolle says about it, it may help you clarity your concerns over any damage it may cause. The download will be available tomorrow, 3/18/08.