gdvant wrote:Attention or presence is the connection or contact between the dimension of unlimited space and the conditioned mind of man.
gdvant wrote:gv: to clarify, where there is identification with thought occurring, consciousness is fragmented.
It was seen over here that consciousness was never fragmented. It only appeared that way because of the identification with thought.
gdvant wrote:That confusion and fragmentation is actually occurring whether or not there is a belief that we are the openness and deeper dimension. Because the deeper dimension is obscured there is no direct connection between the energy of that dimension and one's daily life.
Yes I agree belief makes absolutely no difference because it is just more concepts, and it is the belief in concepts that seemingly obscures the connection, but the energy is always there in the present moment but because we inhabit a world of concepts and beliefs we do not notice it. The energy is always there because YOU are indivisible.
gdvant wrote:So there is an enormous qualitative difference in consciousness between a state where the spacious dimension is obscured and when it is not.
gdvant wrote:When ET for example asks, is there space what what is occurring? -- that points to centerless attention.
When the separte individual is not granted any belief, life happens without a centre; all that is left is the Space and Content of Space, which is YOU
gdvant wrote:Attention or presence is the connection or contact between the dimension of unlimited space and the conditioned mind of man
Presence or the "know-ing that you are" (verb) is what you are. You cannot connect to what you already are. The conditioned mind of man does not exist, it is not a separte entity. Once it was seen that the separate "I" has no reality, the lynchpin is pulled out, it is also seen that there is no such thing as mind or conditioned mind, these are just misconceptions stacked on the primary illusion of the separte identity.
eagle2phoenix wrote:I propose we quit this topic as it seems never ending. To each his own?
Lol..I think we actually quit the original topic several pages ago.