Hey Slice. I'm happy to read such a considerate answer from you - I thought you might get angry. When confronted with questions about spiritual practices Tony Parsons has been known to literally huff and walk away without saying a word.
Psychoslice wrote:I feel Tony Parsons has a lot of good to teach, he has helped many people, and many have awoken because of his teachings
I agree. From the little I know about it it seems that people with many years of spiritual practice who feel like they have hit a road block get a great deal from his teachings - is this true of your experience? (both personally and in others you know?) I've heard it said that in these cases the individual has progressed enough and that stopping the practice is what is required to move on - e.g. as the Buddha said about using a raft to cross a river but not taking the raft with you. It seems that Tony recommends then stopping the journey completely which contradicts my own view but as djmart points out this is just an opinion. Incidentally, in reply to the question of 24/7 consciousness / self-awareness (depending on your terminology), sages have reported experiencing this for thousands of years and I assume it is why it is called "awakening". When awareness becomes self-aware this process should continue uninterrupted as awareness is timeless. Here's a quote from Nisargadatta on the subject:
"By elminating the intervals of inadvertance during the waking hours you will gradually eliminate the long interval of absent-mindedness, which you call sleep. You will be aware that you are asleep."
Psychoslice wrote:and many have awoken because of his teachings
Do you feel that Tony is teaching you something then? If so, how does that wake someone up if they are already awake? Does it help them to realise that they are already awake? If so, then don't spiritual practices also help people realise they are already awake - or awaken them to the awareness that they are?
Great talking to you - I hope this debate continues,
Hi Jack, yea sometimes that is all one can do is to just walk away, this consciousness or source cannot be argued about, it cannot even be known, that is intellectually, it can be pointed to as Tony Parsons does, and as many other do also.
I myself have never really had a practice or path, I was always interested in religion, and the concept that we are all one in God, I was a Christian for about 17 years but gave it up because I couldn't agree with it any longer. The awakening experience happened spontaneously, it was when I had enough of life and I just feel onto my bed and gave in to life, in that moment I was free from all that held me in its prison, that is the mind.
The experience was like dissolving into the cosmos, becoming all there is, I felt like I was connected to everything there is, it gave me the feeling of love, not love for a particular person or persons, but for everything there is. When I cane out of this experience I began to laugh and laugh, I am still laughing today lol.
Yes I agree with Tony, when most are on a so called path, they begin to be addicted to the path, they practice for years just to simply realize their already there, in this case its best to give up the path and just be who you are. No matter what we do to awaken, its not going to work, because why we are trying to awaken, the trying is going to keep us from awakening, as it is said, "let go and let God".
Yes Tony is teaching something, as we all teach, and all learn from each other, if there is going to be an awakening in ones life experience then no matter what they learn it will happen, some people are like wet wood and can take a long time to realize their true being, some are like dry wood and awaken more easily, and there are those who are like gun powder who only need a little hint, they ignite instantly.
There are so many teaches who all teach in their own way, each individual who is trying to find their self will adapt to whatever teacher they feel drawn to, one teacher might not be for one, and another may be the very thing that will ignite your inner being.
Great talking to you also, remember whatever I say is only my understanding, and maybe right or wrong for you.