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transmuting the painbody

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:43 pm
by mikel
Hi all,

I would like to share this experience with the forum, I feel as people here are going through similar experiences we can help each other along...

A few nights ago while laying in bed I became fully aware of my presence and shifted it with all my being onto my stomach area where I experience all my anxiety and painbody, I lay my hand on my stomach, increasing my feelings of awareness and presence, after time my presence began to deepen further and further like it had it's own momentum and what felt like a true connection seemed to be emerging, a realization. As this was unfolding my stomach area became intensely alive with heat and energy, it's indescribable... the alchemist, the flame of consciousness… this gets someway close to it… for about an hour or 2 afterwards I experienced a real sense of peace, comfort and joy. It felt like a blockage, trapped energy was gone and good energy now flowed freely.

Over the past few days, the freeness and flow of energy is still there in my stomach and I have been intermittently been experiencing spontaneous feelings of what seems like joy, it's like my stomach area becomes full of good energy and excitement and there is a rush throughout my whole body. My breathing feels more natural than it ever has in my whole life and I feel a great sense of stillness and comfort in the present moment, it's quiet difficult to describe. There is still a bit of apprehension at times as to what is happening and where this is going.. The apprehension is most apparent when I am in the company of other people, despite this I am always present there in my body, all the time… I feel the apprehension is possibly the ego trying to preserve itself, saying things like this won’t last, or this is going to go bad and end up in tears. Guess there is no benchmark here.


Perhaps others can shed some light?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:53 pm
by Finbarr
I'm not sure if I have any light to shed on it except to say Good for you and hope it continues. Perhaps it is your 3rd chakra being cleared out or purified/balanced?

Re: transmuting the painbody

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:03 pm
by eseward
mikel wrote:It felt like a blockage, trapped energy was gone and good energy now flowed freely.

Over the past few days, the freeness and flow of energy is still there in my stomach and I have been intermittently been experiencing spontaneous feelings of what seems like joy, it's like my stomach area becomes full of good energy and excitement and there is a rush throughout my whole body. My breathing feels more natural than it ever has in my whole life and I feel a great sense of stillness and comfort in the present moment, it's quiet difficult to describe.
Transmuted, formerly blocked energy: sounds right to me.
mikel wrote:I feel the apprehension is possibly the ego trying to preserve itself, saying things like this won’t last, or this is going to go bad and end up in tears.
Ego (conditioning) trying to hang on to its programming: sounds right to me. :)

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:13 pm
by mikel
I held anxiety for a very long time in that area of my body, the simple awareness that I was doing that was the catalyst to let it unfold or be realised, It feels like I've dipped my toe in the sea...

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:23 am
by jj
Congratulations Mikel. Yes, the power of awareness once realized is transforming. 'I Am' here. I Am ready to come.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:58 am
by Slyder
I get a really warm feeling in my stomach when transmuting the pain body, like a fire burning!

Saves on the heating bill :D

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:52 pm
by yougarksooo
Mikel, sounds like a shift to me. Don't look to where it's going. :)

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:29 am
by mikel
Thanks all,

I felt a shift, and since then there have been more subtle shifts in seeing. That I have been seeing through the lens of an illusory self is becoming more and more apparent, all the time. In moments when you can see without the lens, complication, seeking, longing, need, expectation, ceases to exist, because these things no longer belong to anything or anyone. :)

When you think about this it could appear frightful, but to know it is completely natural, and you feel more grounded and at home than you could ever have thought possible. It is all very gradual and subtle for me... It is the noticing of when need is pulling for things to be different and other than they actually are. It is noticing when the habitual illusory self is at work, and giving it acknowledgement. It is mainly noticing without application of an idea about it or a how this should be, or a vision of an end result. It's getting to know yourself freshly anew in every moment.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:53 pm
by kiki
Terrific post, mikel.
It's getting to know yourself freshly anew in every moment.
Yes - nicely stated.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:41 pm
by eseward
mikel wrote:That I have been seeing through the lens of an illusory self is becoming more and more apparent, all the time...

When you think about this it could appear frightful, but to know it is completely natural, and you feel more grounded and at home than you could ever have thought possible.
Exactly. Beautifully said. The prodigal son returns home and all wanting comes to an end. :)

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Jesus

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:03 am
by mikel
thanks Kiki and eseward,

Reading back over your many posts has been a great help to me in seeing that truth. I would say ye are both splendid individuals but in light of recent realizations I will say that ye are both splendid manifestations of life :)

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:22 am
by jj
mikel wrote:thanks Kiki and eseward,

Reading back over your many posts has been a great help to me in seeing that truth. I would say ye are both splendid individuals but in light of recent realizations I will say that ye are both splendid manifestations of life :)
Yes as long as you don't mention yougarksooo or Slyder because that would be a huge error! Why didn't you mention me?

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:05 pm
by mikel
Yes as long as you don't mention yougarksooo or Slyder because that would be a huge error! Why didn't you mention me?
Hi JJ,

I appreciate everyones posts including, yougarksoo and slyder and yourself also

In answer to your question why I didn't mention you.

I didn't mention you because on the day I wrote the post... I didn't mention you... it's as simple as that.... :)

reality is great!, it becomes harder and harder these days to make something out of nothing...

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:20 pm
by yougarksooo
Mikel wrote:
I appreciate everyones posts including, yougarksoo and slyder and yourself also

In answer to your question why I didn't mention you.

I didn't mention you because on the day I wrote the post... I didn't mention you... it's as simple as that....
Right. We do because we do. We don't because we don't. I have a friend who says "there is no such thing as a mistake." This reminds me of Tolle's statement "nothing is personal."

These are just little pointers which point to something I see more and more, in the waking... Look at life as a whole, here on earth. Lots of things seem to be happening, but there really is no center. We can't say objectively that life revolves around anything or anyone. Life just is. Now, go within the mind of a person identified with form. From that perspective, through those eyes, it is all happening to the "me." The person puts a conceptual overlay on life. Something that really isn't there at all. This overlay is a story about how this thing called life pertains to him or her. Then, it's "my life," "my experiences," "my friends," "my spirituality" etc etc ad nauseum.

Nothing is personal. It's only seen as personal through the veil of this conceptual overlay. When someone is speaking to me today about anything, I know they are telling me about who they think they are. Take something benign like a belief that George Bush is a bad president. When I hear opinions, I know this person is saying the following (if it were made conscious): "I see myself as a totally separate person, separate from the rest of life, from my listener, and from this person George Bush. I strengthen this illusion of separation by identifying with certain forms, one of which is an opinion about George Bush. By repeating my opinions, I define who I am, and therefore that you are not me. I have to do that or else I would have no separate identity."

This applies to almost anything anyone says when unconsciousness is there. If someone is criticizing me, sure there may be something to learn from it. But mostly, they are telling me about their nonacceptance. That also applies when I am telling someone that I don't like what they are doing. I am telling them about who I think I am.

This is what I hear when people are talking to me. This is what I hear when I am talking to people. When we talk, we are sharing the story of our conceptual overlay, unless we are awake. To be awake means to not take the overlay as reality. To see it for what it is.

I have no idea how any of that pertains to this thread. But it occurred to me to share that as the discussion came down to the issue of "why didn't you mention me?" Nothing is personal. Life just is. :)

Thanks Mikel. Sounds like there is awakeness in you.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:41 pm
by jj
mikel what I said was a joke. It was meant to be funny. :) Did you see the little font 'me'? Hehe nevermind.