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Why the Observed World divides Reality

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:36 pm
by ashley72
The observed world or perceived universe is only one-side of the coin - seriously!

How is this so you ask?

Because we are not observing particles or objects, we are observing the amplitude of harmonics in a standing spherical in/out wave centre. Which has a crest/trough component (oscillation). In other words, if you ever wondered how being and not being occurs, or how can I have a personal & impersonal perspective... Well that's why!

An object is merely one state of the oscillation... derived from a two opposing wave processes!!!! The whole of human thought is corrupted when you make one faulty central axiom... which is that an object is fundamental.... when clearly an object is not an axiom... The most fundamental axiom of the "unobserved" universe is that of a wave form. The meeting of two wave forms in a spherical nature create the apparent object (the Tao). Human thought has gone wrong when it considers an apparent object to be fundamental when clearly it is not. Look around you folks, all things are made from wave properties it's so bloody obvious now I'm seeing clearly. Look closely at the Tao.. Yes yin/yang symbol. It constructs a sphere- an object. By the process of two opposing waves black/white. I rest my case. :lol:

There is no fundamental subject/object split or paradox. It's a subject/object derived from Subject split. Big difference.

This is why mystics say consciousness is primary and all there is. The mystics just hadn't found a correct atomic theory model to fit this direct seeing... Until Milo Wollf came along with the spherical standing wave model, which is really a model of the ancient Chinese Tao.

Here is diagram of how two in/out spherical waves create a spherical standing wave. Notice the amplitude at the centre of the combined wave. That amplitude oscillating up and down is what quantum scientist have been telling us is a solid fixed particle. Clearly it is not a solid fixed particle when understood from the deeper knowledge from wave properties. The veil has been lifted!!!!


Re: Why the Observed World divides Reality

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:40 am
by ashley72
Based on this new understanding of Reality...... Subject is not constant or fixed, and objects moving. Which is what a lot of spiritual teachers have been saying to us. This is wrong!

Objects do not exist as something fundamental - they are only apparent to perception.... they are derived by the oscillation of Subject. The observable universe or human perception sees the opposite (illusion) which is a moving object on a still background. But if you think about this logically... it doesn't make any sense, how can something mysteriously be derived by something that doesn't move. This is why everybody gets so confused when trying to logically understand this. You mind just hits a brick wall.

So all those TV & Movie metaphors are actually very misleading. They don't make any sense whatsoever. One of the reasons i have struggled with clarity on this issue for over a year.

Now you might be saying at this stage, how did all those clever Physicists, mathematicians & philosophers miss this and others are now understanding this seeming paradox. Because all those people saw the "object" as absolute fundamental, because human's perceive them in that way. So as a consequence the mind plays with concepts using objects not processes. But if we thought in processes rather then objects like the ancient Chinese did, we would not have missed this obvious truth. Hence the Tao.

Some Quantum Physicists including Louis de Broglie, Albert Einstein, Erwin Schrödinger got awfully close to solving the mystery.... but they were influenced by Physicists like Max Born towards probability waves & uncertainty principles. The very name of those new theories were telling them the obvious.... yes the apparent particle is uncertain, and random because its a wave process!
Albert Einstein believed that randomness is a reflection of our ignorance of some fundamental property of reality, while Niels Bohr believed that the probability distributions are fundamental and irreducible, and depend on which measurements we choose to perform. Einstein and Bohr debated the uncertainty principle for many years.

Re: Why the Observed World divides Reality

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:34 pm
by snowheight
If you want an in-depth coverage of Schrodinger's semantics, I'd recommend Walker's "The Physics of Consciousness".

Bell covered that ground in the '70's, finally resolving Einstein's last challenge (EPR ... non-locality) to Bohr. In this he undermines the whole notion of space itself on which Einstein's theory rests.

Re: Why the Observed World divides Reality

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:12 pm
by ashley72
Yes, John Bell is regarded as having demonstrated the failure of local realism (local hidden variables). Bell's own interpretation is that locality itself met its demise.

But Albert Einstein's continuous space-time (locality) is not the same as WSM continuous-space resonance theory which is independent of time.

Albert Einstein: Physical objects are not in space, but these objects are spatially extended. In this way the concept empty space loses its meaning. ... Since the theory of general relativity implies the representation of physical reality by a continuous field, the concept of particles or material points cannot play a fundamental part, nor can the concept of motion. The particle can only appear as a limited region in space in which the field strength or the energy density are particularly high.

Albert Einstein's error was to model matter as a continuous spherical field in space-time rather than as a Spherical Wave in continuous Space which causes the spherical force field effects. In this way, there is no causality violation because the in-waves are real and do not run backwards in time.

The solution though is obvious once known - to discard the discrete particle in Space and replace it with the Spherical Standing Wave (SSW) in Space. Then instant action-at-a-distance between discrete particles becomes action-at-a-distance between the In and Out-Waves of the Wave-Centers 'particles' in Space. This leads to a clear understanding of how matter interacts with other matter at-a-distance in Space, as it is the interaction of the In-Waves and Out-Waves with other SSWs (and particularly their Wave-Centers) that explains all matter to matter interactions in Space. These interactions are limited by the velocity of the In-Waves and Out-Waves which is the velocity of light c. Thus actions-at-a-distance are not instantaneous as Newton had assumed, but are limited by the velocity of the In-Waves (velocity of light c, as Albert Einstein realised). ~ Milo Wollf

Re: Why the Observed World divides Reality

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:54 pm
by snowheight
ashley72 wrote:Bell's own interpretation is that locality itself met its demise.
In other words, instead of rejecting "stuff", like you want to do, Bell rejects "space". :lol:
ashley72 wrote:Thus actions-at-a-distance are not instantaneous as Newton had assumed, but are limited by the velocity of the In-Waves (velocity of light c, as Albert Einstein realised). ~ Milo Wollf
That's been shown not to be true:

"When the researchers changed the movement of one set of the ions, the other set immediately responded."

immediately means immediately, not at the speed of light.

Now If I understand your standing-wave based explanation of this, it would seem that the alternative model of what is actually happening between the "two entangled particles" is that the field concentrations in those regions of space are exchanging information continuously. I have one observation and one question for you: this is a re-invention of the ether ... has anyone come up with a plan to test it?

Re: Why the Observed World divides Reality

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:31 pm
by ashley72
I'm going to need to come back to you on some of your points when I'm better read up on some of the more tricky aspects Quantum Theory in respect to WSM.

However, my main premise is that WSM would imply an observable aspect of reality which manifests in the standard model. An unobservable more deeper & fundamental aspect of Reality - which really is the underpinnings of why the world manifests as giant binary soup (duality).

Any theory of reality is going to need to reconcil this simple observation ... ata_player

By the way that hyper-link is dead.

Re: Why the Observed World divides Reality

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:01 pm
by ashley72

If you still hold an interest in our debate about which interpretation of quantum physics will ultimately prevail.

Let me give you an update.

The Lisa Path Finder launched today. It will carry out some important scientific experiments over the next 3 months to determine whether or not we have improved our chances of detecting the elusive gravitational waves predicted by General Relativity.

What's interesting about this story is, Carver Mead, an electrodynamics expert from Silicon Valley, known for popularizing the term Moore's law (doubling of transistors every two years), and a proponent of the wave structure of matter, has determined that the different orientation of gravitational waves theorized by the wave structure of matter will prove that, the Copenhagen Interpretation & both General Relativity are all wrong... and that the photon doesn't exist after all, and the massless photon is nothing more than a wave phenomena of wave transitions rather than a discrete particle. ... rview.html

Here is a recent talk by Carver Mead talking about the problem with the current prevailing view of quantum physics.