ihavemorethanenough wrote:ow can we study about life after death? By making a study of near death experiences? Do you not see something wrong with that? They are not after death experiences, and there cannot be after death experience studies.
After years of study and many a discussion with those offering similar concern, I realized that NDE or near death experience is not entirely accurate to the phenomena. In many cases it is accurate, in others the term NDE is insufficient. A more accurate term for many experiences would be 'TDE' or temporary death experience.
NDE's would be indicative of those undergoing physical trauma that results in an out of body experience where they see their body and their physical surroundings. TDE's would be indicative of those actually experiencing the realm of the greater reality from which all come and ultimately return to. It is temporary in that they returned to continue there physical life experience, most often with new insight and perspective as to the greater nature of reality.
No doubt some, who have a conviction that contradicts this view, will call foul for reinventing the terminology. But the study of the phenomena is still young and like many studies more inclusive terms must be applied as understanding increases. So, TDE, or temporary death experience, is a more inclusive term that speaks more accurately to the actual experience.
That said, even with the claims that NDE's are not legitimate because it's not actual everlasting permanent death, I offer an analogy that seems fair to the experience. If one should go to the rim of the grand canyon and gaze upon its depths on a bright and clear day, while meeting some of its inhabitants who dwell within it, and yet not actually explore its totality, could it be said the experience of the grand canyon, limited though it may be, is not real? Could it be said that there was nothing of value learned from seeing its vastness and beauty from the rim? Would you discount its existence and the validity of the report because the observer walked back from the experience and returned to his or her origin?
If you received a thousand, or ten thousand, or a hundred thousand similar reports, would you discount them all as irrelevant because they did not stay? Would you not at least give them a fair hearing and compare their experiences for potential commonality and value?
Of course TDE's are not the only source of information from the greater reality. There are channels and mediums and OBE'rs as well, some going back centuries. Have you read Swedenborg? There are striking similarities that strongly support each other. For one with an intense interest, be it from fear of the unknown, or a strong curiosity for an inevitable experience one day to be had, would it not be prudent to explore all genuine possibilities?
And if we accept before what you said of most religions and philosophies spreading ideas of hell and heaven, or non-existence, in order to enlist and control memberships, I can say the same about this guy and all others who claim to have after death knowledge or experience. Dr Eben Alexander wrote a book about his NDE and it became a best seller, and he's planning on writing a second book which will also become another best seller, and who knows maybe others after it. The fear of death is real, and people who say they know that there is no death etc, are aware of this fear and are trying to enlist and control memberships by spreading their stories and ideas, don't you think?
Well, no I don't think this at all. While is is always possible that some may make money off their books, they are few in comparison to the vast number of experiencers who kept silent for years fearing, and often experiencing criticism and even professional detriment. Most TDE'rs undergo profound change after their experience. Almost all lose any fear of death and equally lose interest in great wealth. Here's a quote to the point from a well known NDE/TDE researcher Melvin Morse, M.D.:
“I have never interviewed anyone who had a near-death experience who told me that they came back to make more money or to spend more time at their jobs away from their families… Instead, they become convinced that they need to be more loving and kind. They react to their experience by living life to its fullest. They believe their lives have a purpose, even if that purpose is obscure to them. Invariably it involves concepts such as love of family or service to others. They seem to know that the love they create while living will be reflected and radiated back to them when they die.”
— Researcher Melvin Morse, M.D., from his book, Parting Visions