Paradox in practicing the Power of Now

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Post by heidi » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:26 pm

I've always been present and conscious. I just wasn't aware of it.
ha ha ha :lol:
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Post by heidi » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:10 pm

The concept of liberation is confining. :)
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Post by innermusiq » Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:59 am

In the emptying of mind the fullness of life is ......

My cup runneth over over in NOW
something like that.

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Post by din » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:59 am

The concept of liberation is confining.
Hi Heidi-ho,

The concept of separation is confining. :D

You just don't like concepts.

Admit it, you're an anti-conceptite! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by flower » Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:22 pm

Arnie said:
I don't know how many times I said I am going home to meditate so I can get focused. What i am really saying is that I do not like the state that I am in now and want to go to the future to achieve a more desired state. That is the trap. I am going home to be in the now because this now is an uncomfortable now but when i get home i will sit on my comfortable couch and pleasantly move into the now. It is not about being comfortable which i believe most of us want. It is about surrendering to this moment no matter what this moment brings. To me that is the key to the teachings. If we are always chasing after enlightenment we are really chasing after a future pleasant state. What we really want is an enlightened ego that is comfortable. The little me is very uncomfortable in the now and will trick us any way it can. I remember Eckhart saying over and over again not to try to achieve any state but to just be here with what is happening now. If you want to drill a well you have to stay put.
This is SO true!! Sometimes when I become present the mind comes in and says 'Oh this is good, this is peaceful, I like this'. Actually when you think you're being present, you're not! I should just give it all up and go and read some Tony Parsons.

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Post by weichen » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:06 pm

Surrender to now out of strength and power

Reach peacefulness through alertness (attention, here and now)

Relax body by siting up straight with your back

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Post by dee » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:00 am

Sometimes I think to myself, when I get time I will read 'the new earth' again to re-familarise myself with eckharts work, and when I do pick the book up it suddenly dawns on me I don't need to read, but just be, and listen, and stay attentive or go into the body

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Post by heidi » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:10 am

Me too. :)
All is as it should be, baby. :)
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Post by weichen » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:18 pm

every human's biggest dirty little secret is the most beautiful thing

Adyashanti: every human has a dirty little secret: when I look inside, I am not there. The mind panicked because it does not know itself after many years of searching. (and maybe the person next to me knows, he sure acts like he does. But I am afraid to ask him for fear of revealing that I don't know, so I better pretend I know, and keep it my dirty little secret).

Not knowing is because my mind has been looking for form, and of course I can't find form when I ask who I really am, because who I really am is beyond form, the most beautiful unmanifested field, which is also everything.

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Re: Paradox in practicing the Power of Now

Post by sikor » Sun May 03, 2009 5:08 pm

forcing effortless state.

desiring to get rid of desire.

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Post by karmarider » Sun May 03, 2009 7:37 pm

this is probably a common trap. In the beginning, it's hard to be present--takes effort until a time when effort is dropped. So it's easier to talk about being present than being present, and to chase knowledge, and distractions. I have done it; I have a friend who has almost memorized Tolle's CDs from listening so often. It all settles down at some point. The love affair with knowledge and Tolle and meditation and blogs and books ends, and it's quite a relief!

a_friend wrote:here's the dangerous paradox for me. I LOVE to read about spiritual development, presence, meditataion, etc. I think it excites my ego. But this (reading) is completely antithetical to the message of presence. Even ET says something like "its not how many times you pick up this book, its how many times you put it down that counts". Of course, i know this and understand this, but my ego would much rather read about this stuff than to be truly threatened by it, ya know? Its far to easy for me to intellectualize about *it* and seemingly difficult to know it and live it. now i'm not even sure this is a paradox, but i'll throw it in there anyway ;)

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Re: Paradox in practicing the Power of Now

Post by weopposedeception » Tue May 05, 2009 6:39 am

I realize that I don't exist as a person. I realize that I am awareness. Say what???? :lol:

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Re: Paradox in practicing the Power of Now

Post by Sighclone » Wed May 06, 2009 4:58 am

The phrase "I am" is too dualistic. A better comment is "existence is."

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A person is not a thing or a process, but an opening through which the universe manifests. - Martin Heidegger
There is not past, no future; everything flows in an eternal present. - James Joyce

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Re: Paradox in practicing the Power of Now

Post by pieutr » Mon May 18, 2009 3:20 am

A big paradox for me, is all "spiritual thoughts" that are running through my head almost all the time, and which prevent me from being what they point to. ha ha ha
But i am getting used to my ego liking to be "a spiritual one" and becoming more and more alert to those kind of thoughts..

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Re: Paradox in practicing the Power of Now

Post by HowToKnowGod » Wed May 20, 2009 11:20 pm

People don't find enlightenment because they're too busy seeking it.

(Sort of like how I made a job out of job-searching).

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