I'm willing to explain, and giving a try at this. There are obviously some things I've said that challenge your belief structure.
Fore, most of what you've written here is like another language to me and makes little sense to me for the most part, let alone finding it challenging to my own beliefs.
Sexual desire is one of the deepest impurities
You think that THIS statement of yours challenges my beliefs? What belief would that possibly challenge? The belief that sex is NOT an impurity ?
That's not a belief Fore. If you give me a reason TO believe that a basic biological act in order to create life is an impurity, well maybe I can grab on to the same belief that you're projecting here and yes, ironically, you probably can't see that the statement that sexual desire is an impurity is merely your own
This is the truth within the universe of my experience, what else could I possibly discuss. I only speak about my experience with regards to these teachings.
Ok, that's a start. You're acknowledging that it's your own truth. However, that completely contradicts the below statement....
that desire is not the same as craving, they are both wanting. You most definitely are confused with this regard and I'm simply calling you on this. Do clarify the difference? If I see confusion, I call the person on this matter so they can further explain their reasoning. I'm not sure what else to call this?
contradicts your last point above, about your experience being your own
truths. If it's only your
truth from your
experience as you claimed above, then how can another perspective be confused? Are you the most enlightened being on the planet? I'm sure you would agree that you're not. Therefore, how can you know that your perspective is the only valid perspective enough to claim another perspective that sees it merely differently than you as 'confused'?
You see Fore.....You see confusion with my perspective and others, because I (and others) don't see craving equating to sexual desire in the same way that you do, and the fact that you're projecting this on to me or another poster as labeling me or another as 'confused' is incredibly unloving on your part. Love embraces another perspective, even if it disagrees. Fear which is what you are projecting, limits and you are limiting others by claiming that only your perspective is valid. You are not allowing another perspective to have a say and be, because the other perspective sees it differently than you. Sorry my friend, but I don't agree that sexual desire equates to craving. I guess I'm just confused.
Would you die if you did not have sex, why do you feel it is necessary to experience these basic urges/desires. Do you not feel that one can come out of these desires. I'm not completely free from these, but my sex drive has decreased immensely.
I'm sure there will remain a healthy number of people who will pick up the slack if I stop participating. Your arguments about world population make it seem as though you are intentionally being obtuse.
But, I never said I couldn't live without sex. Let me re-phrase my point. You posted that 'Sexual Desire is an impurity'. My response was that if sexual desire is what is needed to pro-create, meaning it's obviously perfectly a natural biological process, then how could it possibly be an impurity? How can pro-creation be impure? The statement makes no sense UNLESS, you have some sort of agenda against sex and it's starting to sound that way.
How could anything that is natural and a process of life be impure? Again, I'm not talking about addiction. Desiring your spouse or partner is not craving and is not addiction. These are just your own beliefs. It will only appear that way if you believe it is and if that's your perspective, then so be it. Yet, understand, I'm referring to the very very basic notion of desiring your spouse or your partner. That's how babies are made. That's how life is formed. You are calling that impure. You are therefore, calling life impure.
On the other hand, I can TOTALLY understand wanting to abstain from sex if you find it too alluring as a form of spiritual practice. I'm doing something similar to that right now. However, if one does choose to have sex in presence, that does not make sexual desire into an impurity outside of the limited belief that claims as such. Again, you only limit that by which you label. You're labelling a biological human act as impure and therefore, you are limiting your experience.
The topic is morality, I feel this is quite on-topic.
Morality was the initial topic of the thread. But the back and forth between you and I was 100 percent in reference to the quote that sexual desire is an impurity and that's the only thing I'm attempting to reference in our back and forth for this discussion.
How can you possibly follow this technique unless you have attended a course?
The section of their website on 'how to meditate'. You might not have seen it. I think it's fabulous.